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關於模版

現在中文維基導遊是測試版，所以我要如何建立一個模版呢，直接建立會提示我沒有權限。Wikilikui (talk) 11:08, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

在模版名 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:29, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
template:xx。Super Wang (talk) 23:41, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

建議關注度要求不要太高

首先，這是一個旅遊網站，應該按照旅行手冊的寫作規範來書寫（正如維基百科按照百科全書的規範書寫一樣）。

所以任何規範的旅遊指南收錄的內容我們基本也可以收錄。

另外我記得吉米威爾斯在去年一次訪談節目（扣扣熊報告）中，很休閒地提到，只要去過一個地方，就可以不用太拘束地把自己的經歷寫到維基導遊中，所以我也覺得，在避免廣告嫌疑的前提下，可以考慮把關注度要求放低一些。

另外，也許可以利用機械人和國家旅遊景點列表來大規模創建條目。 --燃玉 (talk) 18:15, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

補充：
「例如，關於巴黎的條目應該敘述艾菲爾鐵塔、羅浮宮等名勝，但您最喜歡的酒店的電話號碼、香榭麗舍大道賣的牛奶咖啡的價錢……都不是適當的內容。這些資訊請考慮寫入[[wikivoyage:|維基導遊]]，但出於著作權上的考慮，請勿隨便抄錄其他文字，除非您是版權持有者。」——中文維基百科，維基百科不是什麼。
——這是不是間接說明，維基導遊可以收錄酒店、咖啡廳等內容？燃玉 (talk) 20:34, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
好像條目規範裏面明確要寫的是看、做、買、吃、喝、休息幾方面而且有專門的酒店信息模板可以用--TianyinLee (talk) 02:42, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
閣下真想像宿霧語和瓦瑞瓦瑞語那樣刷機械人編輯？別忘了這事在互助客棧那邊已經吵得很惹火啦。--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:53, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
當然不是啦:-)不知道你為什麼會想到這些= =燃玉 (talk) 15:10, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

圖片

請問如何給pagebanner選擇合適的圖片？在維基共享資源上面沒找到。--歸零者 (talk) 10:28, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

在Commons上面用分類的方法找到相應的圖片，然後剪裁成寬高7:1的自己上傳，記得加上wikivoyage banners的分類就好。另外可以試試看在這裏以子分類中找一找，banner圖還挺多的呢。--TianyinLee (talk) 10:37, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Clickable button模板不正常

{{Clickable_button}}這個模板為什麼後面一直跟着]，有時候是一個有時候是兩個，看了下代碼，和zhwp上面的一樣，解決不了--TianyinLee (talk) 17:15, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

好了，缺少一個子模板。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:20, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

明星條目

我們需要明星條目（Star articles）嗎？ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hkjacksonhk (talk • contribs) 05:26, 30 August 2013‎ (UTC)

我們條目太不全了，還是等建站後再說吧。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:51, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

關於本頁面的名稱

本頁面的名稱應該譯自Tourist Office吧，不過這個詞應該是旅遊局、旅遊辦公室、旅遊諮詢處這類的意思吧。另外非目標里有一條「維基導遊不是旅行社（travel agency）」，還是換個名字吧。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:30, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

同意--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:52, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
同意，改了--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 09:34, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

PageBanner

這個Template:Pagebanner怎樣用？說明文檔說了都用不了，求人來救救。（我現在只能直接放照片）--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 07:15, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

當初我正是因為弄不明白這個菜才刪除模板，不知被誰又建立起來了。那個模板根本就不是像英文裏那麼用的。Super Wang (talk) 10:49, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
此話怎講？ 歸零者 (talk) 11:25, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
這個用不了應該是class="topbanner"，class="name"等等等等沒定義，管理員你快去把英文的「偷」過來。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 13:49, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
拿過來的話以現在我們只能用前綴頁面的地位可以生效嗎？--TianyinLee (talk) 13:59, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
不太了解孵育場的機制，這個還是讓管理員來解決吧。或者到Incubator:Community Portal問一下？--Xiaomingyan (talk) 14:53, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
建議涉及到JS，CSS，LUA的等建站後再搞，否則可能影響別的維基。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:59, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
找多點人來建站就好吧。Incubator有說怎樣才能建站嗎？？--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 15:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
請參考Help:Manual/zh，還有元維基中已經提交申請了，只是一直沒有答覆。但是申請建站的首頁顯示的是我們屬於不用走固定程序的維基，需要的只是擴充，所以具體是怎樣也不是很清楚。--TianyinLee (talk) 16:31, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
mediawiki名字空間確實沒法「偷」。只能等建站後再說。Super Wang (talk) 23:34, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
還有一個方法就是在一個統一的頁面（如MediaWiki:Common.js與MediaWiki:Common.css偷來。然後每人在Special:Mypage/common.js加入importScript("MediaWiki:Common.js")，Special:Mypage/common.css加入@import url('/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css') --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:09, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
似乎大部分都正常了，除了下面的目錄。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 02:14, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
  • 要令所有條目統一使用{{Pagebanner}}。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 02:24, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
    支持 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:29, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
    是什麼正常了？貌似看到頁面下面的提示這是大綱的模板可以居中了其他的還沒有看到有什麼變化。另外這些css/js重定向可以生效嗎？--TianyinLee (talk) 06:03, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
    我試了下，這個模板可以正常顯示圖片和標題了，不過似乎目錄還是不正常。所以css/js重定向有效？好神奇--TianyinLee (talk) 06:10, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
    你可以看一看我做了哪些編輯，就知道了。（事實上我從MF-W得到了幫助）--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 06:21, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
    支持--歸零者 (talk) 06:40, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
  • 在{{Pagebanner}}中顯示目錄方法：{{Pagebanner | TT Banner.jpg }}--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 06:15, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
左下方的目錄部分是不是可以將高度再調小一些？--歸零者 (talk) 06:28, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Zhuyifei1999加油--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 06:31, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
解決了（我們MediaWiki軟件可能有英文維基導遊不同(沒有tocFloat））--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 06:35, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
我知道參數直接填圖，不過原來翻譯的模板說明檔的信息需要更新一下了。我說的是目錄TOC無法顯示。--TianyinLee (talk) 07:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
不是很正常嗎？你試試吧緩存刷新一下，或給我一個屏幕截圖。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:10, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
[1]難道是要顯示目錄還要用到別的參數？我開看預覽的時候目錄閃了一下就消失了。保存的結果也是沒有目錄的。--TianyinLee (talk) 09:39, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
目錄在Banner底部，與英文維基導遊一樣。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:55, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
banner的圖是7：1的，是不是目錄太靠下了，我試着全選頁面，好像看到banner圖的下面有東西，但是不能確定是不是目錄，因為看不到。要不你建立或調整一個頁面作為範例讓我看看怎麼用這個模板吧。謝謝。--TianyinLee (talk) 10:23, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
1. 哪個瀏覽器與皮膚？2. 英文維基導遊也這樣嗎？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:45, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
1.Vector@Chrome. 2.英文維基是正常的。未全選截圖和全選的的截圖。--TianyinLee (talk) 12:23, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
試試加 #toc, .toc { display: inline-block; } 到User:TianyinLee/vector.css。我偶爾也用Vector@Chrome或Modern@IE，但從沒出現過這事。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

添加了，可是還是不正常，你看我添加的對嗎？--TianyinLee (talk) 14:33, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

看來我還真不知道。右鍵inspect element（審查元素）看看有沒有錯誤，或明天核對一下。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
清除cookie，重新登錄以後又顯示出來了，所以我還是不知道……為什麼--TianyinLee (talk) 15:39, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
解決了？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:54, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

看看這個：搜索結果，除了我們的全部不工作。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:36, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

哈哈，因為我們有資深工程師<(￣︶￣)>--TianyinLee (talk) 03:39, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Z大，我都要崩潰了，都不知道我幹嘛了，現在又不顯示目錄了，又要清除cookie了。cookie裏面會存什麼東西導致不顯示目錄呢？--TianyinLee (talk) 05:55, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
我真不知道，除非你給我操作你電腦，或給我很多很多inspect element（審查元素）的截屏。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:29, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
審查元素那麼多，具體要哪一塊的？--TianyinLee (talk) 10:45, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
我找到了一個叫做wm_hidetoc的cookie，就是它的問題，但是為什麼會生成這個玩意。--TianyinLee (talk) 11:16, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
原來如此！我知道了。你在目錄上點過hide。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:25, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
YAY! 解決了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:46, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

先別着急YAY啊，這頁的目錄上面的隱藏按鈕？那豈不是永遠不能碰了？--TianyinLee (talk) 13:21, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

不是，你碰了沒影響了[2]。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 13:25, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
注意要清空緩存並硬性重新加載。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 13:41, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

hi

just say hi--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:35, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

希望維基導遊能夠早日發展壯大！--歸零者 (talk) 15:53, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
：慢慢寫，慢慢建站吧！--Tobesherry (talk) 11:48, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

段落標題

目的地條目段落標題已經基本翻譯完成，某些譯法可能不合適，需要討論。[[Talk:Project:條目模板/段落|討論傳送門]]。

關於首頁條目統計

前幾天的時候就一直都是123條目，我怎麼建新的國家都不變化，今天反而成106了，這怎麼回事？--TianyinLee (talk) 16:23, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

頁面寫着<div id="pagecount">已有[[Special:Prefixindex/Wy/zh|<span style="font-size: 120%; font-weight: bold;">'''{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Wy/zh}}'''</span>]]篇旅游指南</div>有點怪!--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 02:16, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
我把Category:Wy/zh儘量少直接放東西在裏邊，移到別的地方了。現在因該修好了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 02:28, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

關於建站

請問中文維基導遊的條目數量達到多少才能獨立建站？或者說要符合其它的條件？ --歸零者 (talk) 06:34, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

要問問meta才知。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 06:44, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
  1. Why must all pages be prefixed?

There are several reasons:

  • Logically, to distinguish the pages between the test languages.
  • For example, if there is one page (e.g. "Europa") which is the same in many, many languages. Which test will have an article with that name? What should the other test have to do? Prefixes solve this problem.
  • The prefixed pages will be imported when your test language has its own subdomain, the unprefixed pages will not.

Pages have to be imported instead of just copied. It is very very hard to import pages without a prefix. The prefixed pages will be listed in the analysis for your test language, the unprefixed not. So, in some way, you will get your own wiki faster :-) --Hkjacksonhk (talk) 06:57, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

這好像不是同一個主題吧？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:03, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

估計要5倍的編輯就能建站了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 05:09, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

首頁要不要裝修一下？

既然css已經支持了。--TianyinLee (talk) 09:40, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

支持只要不頭重腳輕。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:53, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
支持，主頁再colorful一些就好了，就像英文維基導遊，但有創意一些更好。--歸零者 (talk) 10:02, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
哦，明白了，不過現在只有建立了那一個模板，其他的還沒弄。晚點再弄吧，先出門以一下。--TianyinLee (talk) 10:17, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
已完成，不過，一飛（猜的字，不對勿怪哦-_-。）你後來加的空白<!-- -->說明有什麼作用呢？另外，頂欄和每月目的地之間的空白異常的寬，不解。--TianyinLee (talk) 03:46, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
你猜錯了就是嘗試解決頂欄和每月目的地之間的空白異常的寬，但已解決了。IMHO我真不想讓中文維基導遊和英文的差不多，現在少了讀萬卷書，行萬里路，而且歡迎光臨維基導遊也不是特別好看。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:58, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
讀萬卷書 行萬里路。這個是我的疏忽，那現在去加上吧。不過原來的主頁也是用英文搬過來的，是英文的舊版。--TianyinLee (talk) 05:02, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
建議「光臨」二字字號和旁邊的一樣大。另原來的首頁上面的標題部分是我按法語和英語的改的，下面的的部分是Mikepanhu設計的，後來調整了下順序。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:36, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
我了個擦！！今天打開首頁被嚇了一跳，總不能什麼都照搬英文吧，翻譯已經把我累得夠嗆了……Super Wang (talk) 08:32, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
格言加上了，不知效果有多爛（囧）。Super Wang (talk) 08:56, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
翻譯什麼東西？--TianyinLee (talk) 10:46, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

現在怎樣？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 06:25, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

那些方針政策大多是我翻譯的，那都多少年前的事了。Super Wang (talk) 06:33, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
不過翻譯是挺辛苦的，現在加了格言的首頁banner還是會把最後一行擠出去--TianyinLee (talk) 06:43, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
強制刷新要我說多少遍？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 06:47, 31 August 2013 (UTC)


麵包屑的實現原理

  1. 石河子市這個地方寫的屬於新疆，但是新疆頁面不存在，所以他是怎麼識別新疆位於中國的？後來我發現我那個導航是原來手寫上去的，囧RZ
  2. 月球這個頁面寫了IsPartOf參數是宇宙，為什麼頁面上方不顯示麵包屑導航？--TianyinLee (talk) 17:21, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
  3. IsPartOf可不可以寫一個名字顯示另一個名字啊，比如寧夏回族自治區，顯示為寧夏這樣。--TianyinLee (talk) 17:32, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
  1. 因為宇宙這個頁面不存在。
  2. {{DISPLAYTITLE? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

手機網頁（移動版視圖）瀏覽效果

  1. {{banner}}這個模板裏面給手機寫的版面的==二级标题==顯示正常，但這個就無法正常顯示了{{mapbanner}}，一直在網頁里顯示源碼== 欢迎光临维基导游 ==，是不是模板裏面的{{{1}}}含有連結而無法正常顯示？傳送門。
  2. 還有，除了mapbanner、DOTM、OTBP、FTT意外，其他部分並沒有對手機版網頁的優化，需要加嗎？--TianyinLee (talk) 04:47, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
  • OTBP和DOTM的icon是一樣的!?--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 04:52, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
英文版也沒有[3]，所以不確定。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:56, 30 August 2013 (UTC)


Template:Warningbox

Template:Warningbox基本可用，請幫幫我翻譯！！！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:23, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

旅行警告 警告：Template:Warningbox基本可用，請幫幫我翻譯！！！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:23, 30 August 2013 (UTC)


+翻譯

誰能幫我翻譯這句話：By clicking "Submit", you agree to the <a class="external" target="_blank" href="http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_use">Terms of use</a>, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the <a class="external" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Full_text_of_the_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_license">CC-BY-SA 3.0 License</a>--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:20, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

我認為：点击“提交”按钮后，表示您同意我们的<a class="external" target="_blank" href="http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_use">使用条款</a>，同时您同意以<a class="external" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Full_text_of_the_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_license">CC BY-SA 3.0协议</a>不可逆地发布您的贡献。 --TianyinLee (talk) 04:50, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. BTW, 你要刷新一下緩存，我對兩個JS又做了編輯。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:56, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
好像是在修改do sleep eat這些模板吧，現在模板最後生成的那個淺灰色edit已經變成中文了，但是在模板裏面選擇類型以後，自動切換模板類型後沒有加上前綴。--TianyinLee (talk) 04:58, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
你再刷新試試，我的很正常[4]--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 05:07, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
正常了，不過有的模板還不存(＞﹏＜)--TianyinLee (talk) 05:13, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

繁簡地區詞轉換的下拉列表

現在在用了Pagebanner模板的頁面裏，banner圖左上的頁面名稱是浮動在最上層的，繁簡地區詞轉換都被它覆蓋導致無法點擊。如果頁面名稱短一點的光標還能繞過去，名詞長的就把繁簡地區詞的下拉列直接截斷了光標無法繞都沒法繞。--TianyinLee (talk) 05:11, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

沒錯，是個問題。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 05:29, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
YAY! 又解決了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 05:40, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
厲害的呀。--TianyinLee (talk) 05:45, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

會議室存檔

會議室太多東西在，不如把討論完成的拿去存檔吧-Hkjacksonhk (talk) 07:01, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

支持--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:04, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

我建議搞個BOT來。超過1月沒消息就存檔。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:29, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

我先做了一個Incubator:Administrators#YiFeiBot_.28Operater:_Zhuyifei1999_.28talk.29.29。如果行政員同意，我就運行。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:54, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
  • 支持--Transuniverses歸零者 13:28, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

機械人

我想有幾個任務可以給機械人：

  1. 存檔頁面
  2. 清理塗鴉牆
  3. 轉換模版（如位於=＞IsPartOf)
  4. 刷新分類（如Category:需要創建上級位於分類的條目有些已經創建，但條目還沒更新）

--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:14, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

已經不把IsPartOf翻譯成位於了？--TianyinLee (talk) 17:02, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
感覺也許IsPartOf更好。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 00:24, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

dotm/otbp/ftt圖標

我剛翻譯了由7個模板組成的一個在存檔頁面顯示圖標的模板{{title-icons}}，剛整理結束。過程中我發現曲徑和每月這兩個的圖標是不一樣的，於是修正就去了曲徑通幽的圖標。不過感覺曲徑通幽的圖標怪怪怪的。我們有沒有必要換一個，或者重新設計這三個的圖標？--TianyinLee (talk) 21:08, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

那個應該是Disambigation的圖標。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 00:22, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
不過也不奇怪，曲徑通幽就是不尋常的地方。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 00:32, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
昨天弄到半夜5點多了，現在還很困……我的想法是做成中文版的另外一系列小圖標。大概可以用到漢字比如「曲」、「地」、「題」、「歧」之類什麼的。BTW，消歧義和曲徑通幽一樣怎麼辦。--TianyinLee (talk) 03:26, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
中立，我更喜歡圖標，但也支持創新。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 06:41, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
不建議另做圖標，維基數據計劃中有一個Badges特性，另做圖標會造成困擾。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 06:50, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
那現在消歧義和曲徑通幽的已經相同了，不會困擾。--TianyinLee (talk) 08:31, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
我的意思是在不同語言版本的網站上的相同欄目用不同的圖標，會對用戶造成困擾。另外消歧義應該是不會算在Badges里的，所以應該不會影響這個特性。不過英語版消歧義和曲徑通幽使用同樣的圖標確實很奇怪，可以考慮在英語版問一下或提下意見。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 09:17, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
支持--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:24, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

「加一個編目」連結

這個按鈕會顯示在什麼標題旁呢？發現有的章節旁邊有，有的章節沒有。--TianyinLee (talk) 06:30, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki:ListingEditor.js。沒有連結的章節可能名稱不用模版的，或沒有合適的編目模版。如果要加，叫我（或申請成為所謂的Translator）。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 06:40, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
所以就是首頁條目創建指引裏面的模板來的吧，我發現裏面吧drink翻譯成夜生活了，開始我覺得可能是意譯，今天我翻了英格蘭的一部分，發現drink就是「喝」的意思，裏面就各種酒吧、咖啡、奎寧水之類的東西。所以夜生活把範圍給限制窄了--TianyinLee (talk) 14:41, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
那個條目模板是我翻譯的，我在這裏說下我的理解。第一，英語版條目模板標準里明確的說這一段的內容是夜生活。從歷史來看，這個標準定型於2009年5月，但有很多條目在這之前就有這一段的內容，在標準形成階段難免會有不符合未來標準的內容寫入條目（也不排除有標準後，有人不看標準，只是看了標題按自己的理解寫）。第二，這個段落的內容應該是一些夜生活的場所和在這些場所中的活動（這也是比較低等級地理分層條目中這一段用bar listing的原因），而對飲料的介紹可以看作是一種衍生內容，因為這些場所的主營業務之一就是提供這些酒水，在比較高等級地理分層的條目中介紹這些場所大致的情況時，很自然的就要提到這些場所提供的特色飲料。第三、英語版不同類型的信息的放置指南中，這一段落的示例信息有bar, cabaret, café (or in "eat"), coffee house (or in "eat"), comedy club, dance club, gay bar/club, hookah bar, music club, night club, pub等，如果叫「喝」的話，是很難想到要把cabaret，comedy club，dance club，hookah bar，music club等放到這一段的。（當然這裏也提到café可以放到eat里，這裏就要看它具體的營業時間和營業目的。對於某些英語條目這段中提到茶，我的理解是應該挪到eat里）另外英語版的多個具體的條目模板（1，2等）里，這段的介紹都提到這段的命名不合理。實際上「夜生活」不僅沒有限制這一段的範圍，反而把drink表示的範圍給擴展了。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:01, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
至少以我了解到的Drink里的編目應是Bar等（如酒吧）--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:08, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

{{Wikipedia}}

我真是搞不懂，怎麼會有這個東西？我們那些InterWiki錯誤只是一個Extension沒裝。並且voy:Template:Wikipedia也和我們的不符。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:39, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

建議把英語版的這個模板挪過來，那個模板是一種變相的CC署名方式。不過現在那些連結顯示在文末有點詭異，可以考慮先保留這類模板，等建站後調整好了再刪除。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 09:21, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
另外，現在已經有條目挪了維基百科的內容過來。雖然很懷疑這個模板到底符合不符合CC的規定。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 09:27, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
  1. 我可以嘗試用JS處理掉（可惜我技術沒那麼好，到現在還沒成功把Sitenotice弄出來）
  2. CC-BY-SA是符合的。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:46, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
其實你技術很好的，已經把坑爹的PageBanner在這裏使用的問題給解決了（希臘語的沒整明白還跑英語版去問來着）。祈禱我們能儘快建站吧，有些問題就可以迎刃而解了。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 10:57, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
謝謝這麼說。希臘語的Pagebanner應該要有CSS才能解決，也就要有編MediaWiki命名空間的權限。Sitenotice我快弄好了，目前正在測試和準備申請。建站我擔心還要幾個月。
User:MF-Warburg給我們的評語:However, as a Langcom member, I have taken notice of this and will look into the state of the approval criteria for wy/zh.--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:29, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
你技術真的不要太好啊，全孵化場的wybeta只有中文的Pagebanner的正常的。不過建站這個真的好糾結啊，都沒有明確指標啥的，說說不用經過死板的認證程序這下好了，都不不知道怎樣才達到建站要求。--Presiding unsigned comment added by TianyinLee 11:33, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
如果用認證程序的話其他如中文維基百科就還沒建站呢[5]。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:57, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
呃，那個是因為zh不讓翻譯啊，只允許zh-hans和zh-hant還有別的。--TianyinLee (talk) 15:40, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

中國區域的劃分

第一種 第二種
righy

今天改江蘇的時候才發現我昨天吧江西放到華東了，然後又發現第一個圖里說江西是華南。所以我們應該用哪一種？--TianyinLee (talk) 05:00, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

建議使用英語的地圖，英語的地圖分區和我們平時地理上的分區不同，這是按旅行者優先和地理分層方針劃分的，把旅遊層面有不同特色的地區劃分的更好些。如果覺得這種分區法有問題，可以以後本地化地圖時修改。（題外話，那個地圖已經有簡體版了，不過最好不要用，有兩個烏魯木齊，而且地名標的看着眼花。）--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:33, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
關於分區，我覺得至少河南和湖北最好不要劃到一個區，河南的主食是麵食，湖北的主食是大米，別的差異也相當的多，實際上就是平時說的南北方差異的問題。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:38, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
喀什寫成烏魯木齊的錯誤我已經修改了，多謝提示還有個中文版。放到條目裏面以後由於圖片縮小了所以文字看起來也就不花哨了，看起來挺舒服。圖應該是要用中文版，如果你還是覺得字體有問題的話，以後可以改，不過我覺得挺好的，你可以去條目里看看。--TianyinLee (talk) 07:02, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
這樣的寫法還是會和人們一般的認識不同，真的好嗎？--TianyinLee (talk) 13:16, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
  1. 對處理的看法：我覺得北邊的西北、華北和東北可以不用動，有問題的是南邊的劃分。在網上大概搜了一下，主要有行政和地理兩種分法。上面給出的第二種的那個圖應該是行政上的分法，是因為管理需要和某些特殊原因形成的，我覺得參考意義不大。在地理上，南邊的是華東、華南、華中和西南，英語的應該也是參考了這種分法，然後根據他們大多數人的理解，作出了調整。我覺得目前可以先這樣觀察一段時間，不過為了避免誤解，可以把南邊幾個分區的名字換一下，比如中國南部，然後再在中國條目里加條提示。
  2. 對分區的看法：我覺得應該把廣西劃到廣東所在的區，安徽劃到江蘇所在的區，別的沒太大意見。
附上一個應該是用於天氣預報的分區的說明圖，僅供娛樂。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 14:53, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

ListingEditor建議

呼叫Zhuyifei1999或管理員。（其實我想說為什麼這裏不能@，雖然我知道可以到你們討論頁留言把你們勾過來）

關於ListingEditor，上免費電話的示例，建議區號不要寫+86。中國大陸大多數的免費電話都只能在境內撥打，另外這裏還有其他地區的用戶。另外還有一些其他建議，不過暫時還沒考慮好，就先提這點好了。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:43, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

要改成怎樣？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:59, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

新標誌入駐Incubator啦！

新標誌來啦！見左上角。只是我怎麼覺得投票時挺好看一標誌，真正用起來就顯得有點古怪呢？是不是因為下端到首頁連結中間的空白多了點？--Xiaomingyan (talk) 08:00, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

因為名字不在底下？LOL--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:35, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
原來的那個logo下面的字很有特點，結果就這樣沒了……--TianyinLee (talk) 12:03, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
同意，去meta問一下？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:10, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
可是那三個尖尖中間有個維基導遊了，腫麼搞。吧中間那個wiki voyage當作圖像，然後各語言版僅翻譯下面的類似手寫的維基導遊？不會去meta發音的說。--TianyinLee (talk) 13:18, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

做了一下新標誌。

--Xiaomingyan (talk) 12:52, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

第二個120px顯示錯誤。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 13:12, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
第二個和第四個樣子好點，第一個有點生硬。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 14:10, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
同意--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:18, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
顯示錯誤處理好後來個投票吧--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 14:29, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
維基導遊繁體字雅黑正黑對比
我也覺得二四和一三比起來更自然一些。簡體用微軟雅黑體還挺好的，不過繁體應該用微軟正黑而不是雅黑，這兩個字體還是有許多不同的，涉及到了兩岸的規範字筆畫問題（比如我們的艹是連起來的，對岸是分開的之類的），這裏有一張比較兩個字體的圖，上面是雅黑，下面是正黑，都是沒有加粗的版本。--TianyinLee (talk) 15:10, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
不知道微軟字體的使用是否有版權的問題。以上四個標誌中文字都使用的是文泉驛微米黑。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 04:17, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
呃，你這個還真分不出和雅黑有什麼區別。--TianyinLee (talk) 07:34, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

建議早點投票吧。投票後只要在MediaWiki:Gadget-ProjectSpecificLogos.js改一下LOGO就變了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:39, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

有人試過這裏的字體嗎？--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:50, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

另外，有人清楚字體的版權到底是怎麼回事的嗎？什麼樣的字體的自由的？--TianyinLee (talk) 07:13, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
因該是不用收費就能使用的字體。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:49, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Pagebanner2

Zhuyifei1999的Incubator:Administrators#YiFeiBot_.28Operater:_Zhuyifei1999_.28talk.29.29能拿去加Pagebanner嗎?Hkjacksonhk (talk) 08:11, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

可以，只要其他人也同意。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:41, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

同意--TianyinLee (talk) 11:48, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

有列表嗎？沒有的話就要很長時間編程了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:54, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

正在運行了（Special:Contributions/YiFeiBot)--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:55, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

存檔

機械人已經改寫好了。到底用幾天後存檔？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:16, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

兩周？--TianyinLee (talk) 11:49, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
可以，人工存檔就不用了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:53, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
很好!--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 14:06, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

有沒有辦法把中文維百的大號字工具搬到這裏來？

RT。--Great Brightstar (talk) 15:07, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

你真那麼喜歡大字？我對於中文維基百科很不喜歡的一點就是它。不過也可以。請在User:Great Brightstar/common.js中加入importScript("MediaWiki:Gadget-large-font.js")。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:22, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

怎麼用那些cautionbox一類的東西？？

在中文維基導遊里能用嗎？。--Tobesherry (talk) 06:53, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

??? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:58, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

你說的是Warningbox吧？Warningbox不難用，用法：{{Warningbox|2013年08月22日，敘利亞首都大馬士革發生沙林毒氣攻擊，請勿前往當地！如果你在叙利亚，請看[[戰區安全手册|戰區安全手册]]。}}--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 09:20, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

cautionbox在英語的wikivoyage裏面是有的，和warningbox的出來的標誌（紅色感嘆號）不同的，是一個藍色的感嘆號。--Tobesherry (talk) 11:58, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
已加入--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:39, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

求救SOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

由於小弟色弱（不信有醫生紙），所以香港#區域中的顔色弄得一圑XX，求救SOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 08:05, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

這個可能和色弱不色弱關係不大，因為就算不色弱的人也未必就能找到真正一樣的顏色，閣下應該去聯繫圖片的製作人去索要詳細顏色代碼表。BTW，按照Project:地理分層里說的「區」級別的條目不需要單獨列成一個條目。其次區域的劃分是按照旅行者的角度來分的（見上面的討論，中國的區劃和實際的並不一樣），由於我不太懂香港的區劃，所以不知道閣下把香港劃得那麼細緻是否因為這些地方真的有獨特且不同於其他地方的景觀和文化可以寫出一整篇條目？如果不是的話，還請併入一個分區下。--TianyinLee (talk) 09:47, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
顏色方面會再試試，而分區是按香港政府的分區。旅行者的角度不可能把整個新界視成一區，如西貢吃海鮮、大埔和北區是遠足，元朗看濕地，大部份新界酒店都在沙田。所以原有地圖以不適用。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 09:59, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

File:Map of Hong Kong 18Districts ZH.svg的作者Moddlyg以很難找到他了……--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:02, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

可以考慮把圖片放到製圖軟件里取色，查看色號。另外關於列表，還有個方針voy:Wikivoyage:Avoid long lists，列表項目最好是5到9條，不要劃分過細。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 10:33, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

按地圖上的編號順序，各區的顏色是dcce7c、7b7190、acbca2、cca153、496441、799d63、8fa1a8、728e9a、bbd6e1、c99c7b、c5bd86、bbb1bc、dcb97f、a78268、e70202、ffb29b、ff6e61、a52602。另外不建議把區分得這麼細。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 10:54, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

在這裏感謝各位的意見和幫助，表格修好了，區也沒分得這麼細了，謝謝！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 12:48, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

很抱歉剛才網絡故障了，剛剛才恢復，沒能看到你後續的詢問，不過現在問題結局了就好。--TianyinLee (talk) 14:16, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

新標誌投票

中文維基導遊新標誌投票正進行中，請到這裏投票。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:20, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

要加點宣傳嗎？比如在wikipedia:zh:Project:VP（sorry不了解zh.wp的運營機制）。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:43, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
好吧--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 12:52, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

要結束投票嗎？中文維基導遊的經常使用者都完成投票了。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 03:16, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Project:旅遊中心/存檔/2012年10月至12月開了三周，所以我就得至少要開一天。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:03, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
ok--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 04:39, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

建議咱們的項目頁面改成「Wikivoyage:」開頭

RT，英文維基導遊已經這樣安排了。--Great Brightstar (talk) 09:16, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

強烈反對也許建站時會出錯，而Project一定不會--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:23, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
why?--TianyinLee (talk) 09:58, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
或者我去問一問MF-W？最近都沒聯繫上他。（<wm-bot> zhuyifei1999_: Last time I saw MF-W they were quitting the network with reason: Quit: A bientôt N/A at 9/4/2013 7:12:31 PM (3d15h42m26s ago)）--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:57, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

[ ]外鏈問題

貌似是css裏面寫的吧，現在wy/zh里所有的[ ]連結都是黑色的，例如這個網易。不過這應該是一個bug吧。--TianyinLee (talk) 03:11, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

英語裏的設計是主名字空間是黑色，其他名字空間是藍色。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 04:03, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

o(︶︿︶)o 唉，我們沒有建站啊--TianyinLee (talk) 04:26, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

重開條目段落標題討論

現有部分條目結構有些混亂，另外因為翻譯不同的問題，ListingEditor不能完全正常運作。建議將這些標題翻譯定型，現在重開這個討論，以解決這些問題。[[Talk:Project:條目模板/段落#標題翻譯討論|討論傳送門]]--Xiaomingyan (talk) 07:55, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

旅者大廳和互助客棧

Project:旅者大廳完成工作，welcome for a test!互助客棧的更名工作也完成好了！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:18, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

:D --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:29, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

優化條目計劃

優化條目計劃，顧名思意，優化條目。不要只顧建站工作（雖然一定要做），但先優化條目水平吧！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 14:25, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

支持說到優化條目，wiktionary:zh:的條目也基本是空的。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:39, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
支持--Xiaomingyan (talk) 04:34, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
支持不過好像寫起來還是有難度啊。不知道信息應該怎麼擺放和應該放什麼信息也是一個問題。--TianyinLee (talk) 07:44, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

調整譯名

現在有些直譯的譯名有點怪異，不太符合中文習慣，建議進行些調整。

  1. Phrasebook，現在直譯作短語手冊，但這類條目中除了短語，還有單詞或完整句子，這裏的phrase應該是取其更廣義的含義，改成「會話手冊」怎麼樣？

Breadcrumb navigation，現在直譯作麵包屑導航，直接看上去完全不知道要表達的是什麼，不過目前沒有好的翻譯建議。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 08:39, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

  1. 支持
  2. 我估計Breadcrumb navigation剛開始也沒什麼實際意義。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:50, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
支持會話手冊。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 08:56, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
中文維基百科裏已有Wikipedia:zh:麵包屑導航了--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:04, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
第2條沒有問題了--Xiaomingyan (talk) 11:31, 10 September 2013 (UTC)。

完成：2支持0反對，短語手冊改成「會話手冊」。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:19, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

維基百科用戶框

我在維基百科用戶框中弄了個{{User zh.wikvoyage}} ，你可以在維基百科用戶頁中加上，建站後我會改好用戶框。 --Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:34, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Cool！只可惜我不是維基百科人（關於原因有些人知道）--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:00, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
可惜，其他人也可以試試看！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:16, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
看起來不錯的樣子。--TianyinLee (talk) 15:08, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

關於旅遊中心和旅者大廳

關於旅遊中心和旅者大廳，en:voy:Wikivoyage:Tourist Office和en:voy:Wikivoyage:Travellers' pub。我們好像正好弄反了。旅者大廳是相當於互助客棧那樣的，旅遊中心是給使用者提關於旅行方面的問題的。--TianyinLee (talk) 04:34, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

你的理解應該是對的，但目前貌似是因為邊欄的原因給合併了（Community portal也合併進來了）。另外建議將Travellers' pub使用「互助客棧」作翻譯，這個詞中的客棧便有旅行的意味，還可以減少WP用戶訪問時的困惑，有時候我覺得「互助客棧」這個詞就是專門給維基導遊設計的。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:42, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
閣下的意思是互助客棧這名字是設計給詢問旅遊的還是站務討論的？我有點迷糊了。--TianyinLee (talk) 06:49, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
我是同意閣下對Tourist Office和Travellers' pub的內容的理解的，所以建議將Travellers' pub譯作「互助客棧」用於站務討論（其實Travellers' pub好像並不僅限於站務討論）。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 07:39, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
同意：把旅遊中心改名為互助客棧，然後再弄一個en:voy:Wikivoyage:Tourist Office旅者大廳吧--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
旅者大廳這名字有點拗口，該叫「遊客大廳」怎樣？--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:44, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

技術問題

剛才發現<pre>這個標記抽了，單行的長度有問題，需要修復一下。另在英語版試了下，也有這個問題。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 08:04, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Example please? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:01, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
YAY！又解決了！--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:48, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
你的這個YAY！我笑了。一┳═┻︻▄--TianyinLee (talk) 11:28, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
框的長度沒問題了，但裏頭字的長度好像還有問題，框底下會有滾動條。[[Talk:Project:條目模板/段落#drink|例子]]--Xiaomingyan (talk) 04:38, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
sorry沒看見。pre的overflow我不知道還有什麼其他方法解決。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:28, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

建議把維百裏面的交通模板搬過來

RT，我發現w:zh:Category:交通模板裏面的東西就是專門給維基導遊設計的，誰願意搬過來？--Great Brightstar (talk) 16:52, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Great Brightstar，雖然交通模板很好，但我們的listing template也能用。維基導遊不是維基百科，交通模板要做到全世界也有是不可能的。英文和德文維基導遊也還沒有交通模板，我們要來做什麼？旅行者優先，你最好看看--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 08:26, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
最近我發現 w:zh:香港歷史博物館 裏面有一些旅遊指南那樣的資料，我就搬到這兒來了，後來發現裏面有些內容須要建大量的模板才能生成，所以就打算從那邊移過來一些模板。--Great Brightstar (talk) 15:15, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
那就辛苦你了！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 15:20, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
原文是從這裏來的。--Great Brightstar (talk) 15:22, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
不過模板這樣全都抓過來是不是有點太多太雜啊。--TianyinLee (talk) 18:21, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
不會的，我去研究過，這些模板的用法都有規律可循，可以方便大家向讀者出示合適的旅行路線。--Great Brightstar (talk) 16:07, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
原文竟是我最後編輯 囧rz --Hkjacksonhk (talk) 06:25, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Facebook

要弄個Facebook專頁宣傳我們嗎？（內地朋友要爬（翻）牆了）--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 08:50, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

lol，不知道。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:35, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
你真可憐小心被XXXXXXXXX。（我在香港:p）--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:51, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Our Facebook Page--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:06, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

那個，信息框模板的Logo能設自動大小麼？現在這樣真的是丑爆了。--TianyinLee (talk) 17:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
原來是錯誤使用模板了，那個地方不應該用那個模板的說。--TianyinLee (talk) 18:30, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

國語會話手冊

編漢語（中文）的會話手冊沒有什麼意義吧，內文的會話對照的部分，相當多都是相同的，另外一些只是語氣和使用的場合不同。個人認為應該併入簡體與繁體中文，或者另開漢語地區差異的旅行話題，而不是會話手冊。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 02:38, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

支持，本來就是中文維基導遊地說……--TianyinLee (talk) 03:34, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

機械人 2

機械人快存檔頁面，互助客棧擠死了！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 03:12, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

貌似當時是定的2周無後續才存檔，現在看起來過長了？--TianyinLee (talk) 03:28, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
那就一周。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:29, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

SVG轉PNG

我們現在需要把新選出來的logo換成135x135的PNG圖片。--Byfserag (talk) 09:51, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

這樣吧，大家再提一些標誌上面文字微調的建議，調整完後定稿了再轉PNG。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 09:55, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
一定要嗎？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:08, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
沒有建議也沒關係。兩天後如果沒有任何建議，周六晚上（北京時間）就轉換。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 11:09, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
支持 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:15, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
其實我已經做好了，效果如下：

--Byfserag (talk) 12:28, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

文字的間距和行距有點不太協調。--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:06, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

  • 個人感覺字號是不是有些大？還是字體的緣故？直觀看上去那四個字和外圍圖標有點不太協調。--Transuniverses歸零者 11:20, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
其實這個字的高度比英語最高的字母還小一些，也許是字不夠粗吧（不過再加粗繁體就很難分辨筆畫了），我會試着做些調整。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 13:42, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

處理後的簡體版。繁體版加粗後筆畫重疊，仍在處理中。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 14:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

建議改個合適的名字

建議把旅者大廳改成遊客大廳，這樣叫起來更通順一些。 發問者: Great Brightstar (talk) 14:04, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

我比較傾向於使用現在的名字。--TianyinLee (talk) 14:40, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Support--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 08:17, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Neutral--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:39, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Support--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:54, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
弱弱補一句，看不出更通順在哪裏了的說。--TianyinLee (talk) 15:07, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
這名字讀起來的感覺不太朗朗上口。--Great Brightstar (talk) 16:04, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
莫須有啊╮(╯▽╰)╭--TianyinLee (talk) 18:22, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
讀起來沒覺得有什麼問題，就是覺得「大廳」這個詞有點空泛的感覺。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 03:34, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

500條目大行動

你們有信心7天有500條條目嗎？Minangkabau語維基百科建立於今年2月，最近該語言維基百科用戶正在不斷創建各類小行星、作家、物種條目，最近7天就建立了19萬個條目，我會香港大大小小的地方拿出來寫（明天，現在北京時間11時，要睡覺。）加油吧！ --Hkjacksonhk (talk) 15:01, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

支持，但是太太太小的地方還是算吧，不能算作條目數量吧。--TianyinLee (talk) 15:13, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
先把國家寫好吧！！！！！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 15:21, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
加油！七天條目翻倍可不容易。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:28, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
一人每天十條，7天也70條了。現在244，70x3-5=210-350，加油！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 15:52, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
加油！--Transuniverses歸零者 13:42, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
路過，支持一下，共同加油！--Chmarkine (talk) 03:57, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Sitenotice

這個裏面能不能放一個模板，然後其他人可以編輯那個模板，現在好像只有Z大一個人有權限吧。放個通知都要八仙過海的說……--TianyinLee (talk) 03:38, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

好吧。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:41, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
我也有。--Byfserag (talk) 07:46, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Yeah right. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:42, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Test-administrator

小弟正在考慮申請Test-Administrator，請問大家支持嗎？另外，我在Beta.wikipedia上是管理員。所以我想看一下大家的意見，謝謝。另外，我覺得我們應該設法讓更多的參與者加入，好讓Wy/zh能夠盡快建站，謝謝。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 10:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

 反對 21號後我{{支持}} 原因：IMO太早。並且，關於建站，20號後我會與MF-W溝通。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:17, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

大家好

大家好，大家好，我是李智康，今年13歲，是一個中學生，來自香港。我在維基學院裏是管理員，剛駐進維基導遊，但不是太清楚要有那裏開始，請問大家有什麼意見給小弟嗎？謝謝。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 00:10, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

看看本頁面的存檔就了解了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:47, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
我們只是在等建站……--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 02:58, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
我最近發現維基百科的許多香港相關條目裏面有一些章節含有旅遊綫路及其他跟旅遊有關的注意事項，建議您把這樣的章節移到這兒來。--Great Brightstar (talk) 09:48, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
看看我們的範文：西安市、香港歷史博物館、香港。--Great Brightstar (talk) 10:24, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

未經翻譯的新建頁面

小弟剛剛發現了幾條未經翻譯的新頁面，希望能夠讓大家關注一下：Project:CC_BY-SA_3.0協議文本，旅行話題--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 10:40, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

CC BY-SA 3.0協議文本好像只有英文，要翻譯為中文就……--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:10, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
會誤解，且沒法律效益。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:16, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
原來如此，真對不起，為大家增添麻煩了。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 11:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
另外，根據en:voy:Wikivoyage:CC-by-sa，我在懷疑是不是真需要這個，畢竟我們不是百科全書。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:57, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
算了吧，反正這是人家的努力啊。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 12:12, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
en:voy:Wikivoyage:CC-by-sa 只是說明人家到底是怎麼用這個授權去發佈旅遊指南的，況且維基全站用的都是 CC 授權。--Great Brightstar (talk) 16:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
先留着這些頁面吧，沒有什麼太大的問題。不過說實話，每個頁面下方以及編輯時都有連結至官方文本的連結，專門開一個頁面確實沒有必要。這裏開這個頁面沒有效力，而且如果官方有些小修改，反映到這邊來也會需要一定的時間。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 03:27, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
常見詐騙手段,需要翻譯。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 10:03, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

我覺得咱們應該效法維基百科建立一個專門用來提交翻譯請求的頁面，這樣一來誰都可以把自己看到的其他語言書寫的好的旅遊指南的連結貼到這兒來，求外語帝翻譯。--Great Brightstar (talk) 11:49, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

英語維基導遊的做法是放Translate模板，模板自動加Articles needing translation分類，Community portal上設Articles needing translation分類的連結。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 12:02, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

獎勵制度

大家認為應該設立獎勵制度嗎？--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 11:17, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

 支持 Barnstar! YAY! --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:28, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
開始建立了。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 11:32, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
直接移植？--TianyinLee (talk) 12:26, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
不，但是十分相似。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 12:30, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
如果是從維基百科的話我得審查了。（不相讓維基導遊顯得呆板，或太百科全書化）--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:36, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
維基資深主編………………翻譯獎我一定拿不了T.T--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 13:12, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

獎勵制度的參與時間和編輯次數太高了，對新人們沒有吸引。我按比例調整了一些！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 13:18, 17 September 2013 (UTC) 獎勵制度實在有太多模板，請其他有空的都來幫忙 orz --Hkjacksonhk (talk) 13:42, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

其實我覺得可以再精簡一點。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 13:52, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
表示其實不太喜歡這個方式，話說英文維基導遊的制度是什麼樣子的？--TianyinLee (talk) 15:53, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
其實我更喜歡Barnstar。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:55, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
英文維基百科根本沒有這個，那維基導遊應該也不會有了。--Byfserag (talk) 08:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
說真的，我從沒見過除了Barnster以外的獎勵制度。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:30, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
在英語維基導遊找到了voy:Wikivoyage:Barncompasses，在英語維基百科找到了w:Wikipedia:Service awards--Xiaomingyan (talk) 12:19, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

綜合大家所說，其實大家是不是想del了哪一頁？--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 08:50, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

維基榮譽與獎勵寫1，Barnster寫2。

    • 傾向於2，不過Barncompass貌似更好？--TianyinLee (talk) 06:03, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

求翻譯

求大家把 en:voy:Wikivoyage:Community portal、en:voy:Wikivoyage:Help 翻譯出來，謝謝。--Great Brightstar (talk) 16:58, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

正在處理en:voy:Wikivoyage:Community portal--Xiaomingyan (talk) 03:53, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Project:社區主頁已建立並部分翻譯--TianyinLee (talk) 04:38, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
正在處理en:voy:Wikivoyage:Help，但是我不知道中文應該是什麼。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 05:47, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Wikitravel因不明原因沒有用Help空間，而是用Project空間放幫助，Wikivoyage導那邊的內容時沒有修改，其實可以考慮把幫助放到Help空間裏。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:59, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
「當你迷茫，失落，害怕，疲倦，煩躁時，斟酌一個問題或要尋求幫助時，你可以來這裏。」不知道的還以為是心理醫院 囧rz...。--Byfserag (talk) 05:55, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Project:幫助這個頁面翻譯基本完成，看來要翻譯還真得在這裏著名，不然重複工作什麼的…… 囧rz...上面那句話，照着英文原文翻的，不知道還能如何潤色才顯得不像要去見心理醫生。--TianyinLee (talk) 06:00, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Pagebanner

所有Pagebanner目錄位置壞了，要俢理！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:03, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

應該已解決，sorry。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:12, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

動態地圖界面語言

我從英文維基導遊移動過來了這個{{mapframe}}，但是它生成的那個動態地圖的用戶界面語言要去哪裏才能翻譯啊， 囧rz...--TianyinLee (talk) 14:48, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

wikivoyage-ev由WMDE控制，更改應該要通知他們。原始碼在 https://github.com/nicolas-raoul/PoiMap2 。地圖以後可能移動到 http://poimap2.wmflabs.org (wikitech:New Project Request/PoiMap2)。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:59, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

中文維基導遊Facebook

Chi Hong Lee Gabriel是Gabrielchihonglee嗎？如果是請回答，加你admin，其他人也可加facebook admin。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 09:55, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

沒錯，謝謝你。另外，我想申請test-administrator，請問大家支持嗎？--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 10:51, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
IMO有點早。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:07, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
我也想申請test-administrator，但我只是在想………………………………--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 12:40, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

我的FB賬戶--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 10:52, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

我有在FB上申請，看到了嗎？--TianyinLee (talk) 14:56, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
我也申請啦。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
申請要先加[6]為好友，才能為大家安排--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:09, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

完成：Xiaomingyan和TianyinLee已加好。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 13:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

小弟的臉書帳號，求加好友，如要加我admin，樂意之至。--春卷柯南夫子 ( 茶寮 | 土木記 ) 13:00, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

叫Gabrielchihonglee (talk)幫你，我無時間用facebook。--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 13:23, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

建站

  1. User:Zhuyifei1999將會在20號聯繫MF-W，看看能不能建站。
  2. 原來我已經不知不覺中已經為Wy/zh建立36條條目了。
  3. 我們要想辦法多找一些人來幫忙。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 14:15, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持--Great Brightstar (talk) 15:51, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，話說現在是不是需要推廣一下中文維基導遊啊？從最近更改里來看好像一直沒有新來者。--Transuniverses歸零者talk 11:15, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
WFC?--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 15:25, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

User_talk:MF-Warburg#About_Wy.2Fzh，我剛剛通知了他。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 06:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

MF-W回應是(01:04:56) <MF-W> I will comment on this issue tomorrow --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:12, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
方針針針針針針針針針針針針針針針針針。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 06:19, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
現在怎麼樣了啊？--Great Brightstar (talk) 09:28, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

關於行政員及管理員的申請

隨着中文版的維基導遊即將建立，將會有不同的人打算申請上述的兩項權利，以幫助維基導遊日後的發展。我想在此邀請各位討論一下投票的機制，謝謝。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 13:59, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

很好很好。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 14:02, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
??? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:14, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
我的建議是建立一個專門的頁面來處理這類事務，並參考維基百科的相關方針制定大綱。--Great Brightstar (talk) 10:29, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 11:53, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Project:管理員.--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 11:56, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

給大家奉獻個生僻字解決方案

我剛才引進了Project:Unicode擴展漢字，如果大家碰上什麼生僻的地名用字就到這裏來。--Great Brightstar (talk) 15:53, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

表示沒看懂，請問怎麼用？--TianyinLee (talk) 09:26, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
要是你用的是 Windows，那麼你可以挑一款支持大字集的字體放到 C:\Windows\Fonts。輔助工具裏面的 BabelMap 有人漢化，那裏也有下載地址。至於 BabelMap 在線版，你可以參考下百度貼吧裏面的這個帖子。--Great Brightstar (talk) 11:12, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

requests for adminship

注意：本輪投票已經結束，請勿再編輯此段。

如果9月27日前我們能成功建站，這個申請就會送去global的監管員，請注意！
hahahahaha 囧rz... 提名User:Hkjacksonhk：自薦。我自已正想申請Test-Administrator，請問大家支持嗎（當然你要申請我一定會支持）？我在參與社群、站務工作，一直試圖努力完善自己，不僅學到了很多新知識，自己也樂在其中。我期待能善用此權，繼續為社群和站務作出貢獻。希望大家能給予我機會。（目前我有編輯量1000+、巡查?+（每天何時都巡查！？）…）I want to be the admin of this wiki.

  • 三個問題的回答
  • 您期望幫忙怎麼樣的管理事務？請先閱讀管理員的介紹頁面。
    • 答：我。管理員並沒有特權，我也是。在最近修改中隱藏破壞是我最感喜趣的。對於其它管理方面（例如巡查、速刪、存廢、保護請求）等，都是例行必須乾的工作，哪裏需要我幫忙，我就會去哪裏。
  • 在所有您在維基導遊撰寫的條目或作過的貢獻中，有沒有讓您覺得特別喜歡的部份？有的話，為什麼？
    • 答：香港，真可愛香港。
  • 你有沒有在過去遇到任何有關編輯方面的衝突，或者是你認為其他用戶造成你的壓力？您如何處理這件事，以及未來遇到時您會怎麼處理？
    • 答：無啊。如果雙方能「退一步海闊天空」，那就變得容易解決了。（就是說維基導遊和維基導遊共存一樣）--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 13:35, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持對於編輯量排名第一的人。加油！--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:10, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
編輯量排名第一這點是的嗎?我才1067+而已--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 14:28, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Maybe: [7]--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:38, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，先支持了，問題什麼的，最近在準備考研，等想好了再來問吧。--TianyinLee (talk) 14:18, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，加油--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 14:21, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，是交到這裏，而不是監管員。--Byfserag (talk) 08:54, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，--Transuniverses歸零者talk 13:36, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Well,stop.--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 12:38, 23 September 2013 (UTC) Withdrawn --‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 12:38, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

管理員申請

注意：本輪投票已經結束，請勿再編輯此段。

提名User:Gabrielchihonglee：自薦。我現在自薦做Incubator上的Test-administrator，也打算建站後做真實的管理員。我在維基學院上也是管理員，所以我認為我絕對有足夠的經驗勝任。當上了管理員後（不管是Test-administrator或是建站後的管理員），我會盡我的本分，管理好Wy/zh。所以，我再一次再次懇求大家的支持，謝謝。
三個問題的回答：
您期望幫忙怎麼樣的管理事務？請先閱讀管理員的介紹頁面。
答：主要從事管理員積壓工作，保護頁面，刪除頁面和日誌以及封禁破壞者。另外，作為管理員，我認為我應該負責推動社團上的討論，也有責任化解紛爭。
在所有您在維基導遊撰寫的條目或作過的貢獻中，有沒有讓您覺得特別喜歡的部份？有的話，為什麼？
答：在參與的過程當中，我最享受的就是出席維基媒體國際大會的義工，為維基媒體服務。另外，我也很喜歡建立不同類型的頁面，貢獻維基導遊。
你有沒有在過去遇到任何有關編輯方面的衝突，或者是你認為其他用戶造成你的壓力？您如何處理這件事，以​​及未來遇到時您會怎麼處理？
答：暫時沒有。我希望以溝通的方式進行解決，在有些時候也會希望條目先保護起來讓雙方得以冷靜。未來自身若在編輯期間遇到3RR情況，仍會尋求正常管道來請求幫助。若遭遇到其他人3RR，我會先與對方溝通並在社群提出討論再做定奪，或許各位會覺得這樣好像很沒效率，但比較不會出錯，也減少管理員個人過於速決而產生爭議。而且面對3RR，在下僅會將頁面全保護一段時間，而非封禁用戶。在維基百科，封禁是一件非常嚴重的事情，因此在下認為封禁一個用戶需要有充足的理由，包括可供查證的證據、合理判斷及所有支持該封禁的因素。這些理由均應在進行複審時按複審人員的要求提供。而且不應該不經警告就立即封禁與之有編輯爭議的用戶。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 14:20, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

 支持說過一定會支持。--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 12:14, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
{{中立}}編輯量不算很大，且不知道需不需要，但多個管理員可以互相監督（糾結啊）。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:34, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 評論，現在建站能與否還不確定，申請的這個事情還是不要太過急，雖然我也會想要申請，但我覺得還不是時機。--TianyinLee (talk) 14:46, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
若果真的建站了，我誰誰？都會支持（當現看看做了什麼）--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 15:11, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，希望新當選的管理員能把中文維基和其他中文姊妹計劃所用的一些成熟的中文處理技術引進這兒來，像是地區詞轉換技術那樣。--Great Brightstar (talk) 15:04, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
貌似地區詞Mediawiki中已經自帶了（只要是選擇中文界面的話）？--TianyinLee (talk) 15:21, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 評論：樓上有所不知，在面對同一個地名大陸和港澳台叫法不一的時候中文維基百科就有了個成熟的解決辦法，我經過查證後認為此辦法在這裏也可以用，因此希望管理員引進來。--Great Brightstar (talk) 10:20, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
哦，我知道你的意思了，不是技術專家，所以不敢造次。不過zh-cn的字符和zh-tw的字元在默認情況下就是可以正常轉換的，所以可能對於某些知名度不是特別大的轉換可能還需要引進吧。--TianyinLee (talk) 11:36, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
解決了嗎？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:45, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持--Xiaomingyan (talk) 04:38, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持--Byfserag (talk) 08:52, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
{{反對}} per [8][9] [10] [11] 看起來不了解維基導遊運作方式。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:31, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
其實我不認為這樣有問題，因為我只是想為大家提供多一種途徑來方便的尋找條目啊。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 11:59, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 中立sorry誤解了，我先w:en:WP:AGF，但那個其實不太好，不然所有條目都歸類到宇宙算了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:11, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 評論之前我提醒過閣下建立的東歐條目的問題了，要從旅者的角度來進行分類。好像閣下又創建了一個西歐？還有我注意到了這個，請閣下注意不要直接從中文維基百科移動條目原始碼內容，需要在頁面上方加入{{Pagebanner}}以及在底端加入的{{IsPartOf}}，這些我也都提醒過了。另外，條目評級的模板{{outline}}是不行的，需要使用形如{{outlinecity}}或{{outlinecountry}}的模板。至於上面Z大提到的問題，既然是誤會的話，我也就不多說什麼了，不過分類以及麵包屑導航都是由{{IsPartOf}}提供的。在我看來，閣下可能還需要更長的時間來了解一下維基導遊的機制，以上。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 05:42, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
提醒閣下：最簡單和不犯指引的創建條目方法——Project:條目模板+創建國家和地區條目。--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 05:49, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
謝謝以上兩位的提醒或意見，我將會努力改善的了，也請大家多多請教！--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 06:57, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

綜合以上的意見，需然我是有4票支持並創建了不小的條目，但是經過我三番的考錄後，我還是覺得自己不夠經驗，所以，我決定撤銷這一次的申請，也請大家以後多多指教，感謝滿分！--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 07:06, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Withdrawn --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:00, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

評選每月目的地

正在Project:每月目的地候選翻譯相關頁面轉移相關模板。發現首頁展示的3個條目是按旬更新的。不如從現在開始我們也開學評選出本月的特色旅行話題條目要展示什麼吧，從現在開始評選也不至於以後這些內容都是空白。至於條目質量要求可以適當放寬，大家意見如何？--TianyinLee (talk) 09:32, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

可以接受把條件放寬至可用級，也可以接受沒達到可用級的條目，在放上首頁前大家一起努力提升到可用級及以上。但在正式運作後在一定時間內要把所有條目提升為指南級，或重新開始評選。另外建議暫時將展示時間延長為2個月。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 12:38, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
改成兩個月嗎？--TianyinLee (talk) 15:47, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
只是建議啦，如果大家有信心一個月完善三個條目，一個月也可以的。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 08:29, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Project:歡迎，新來者

請問大家同意要加上「維基導遊不是維基百科」的字眼嗎？--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 05:39, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

我覺得好像兩者的頁面佈局及各方面的區別都相當明顯，只要現在別一直把此二者推向同質化就好，現在應該還不到會讓人混淆這兩者的地步呢。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 06:09, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

哇！

我剛剛創建了的第350條條目啊，當中有47條是我創建的，很大的滿足感啊！我看應該快要建站了！大家繼續努力！加油！--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 06:45, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

哇！--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 06:51, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
精神可嘉！爭取可以早日建站。貌似我只是在建站務相關的條目，對於實際的目的地條目，我沒有信心可以寫得很好。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 07:28, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Project:條目狀態統計

Project:條目狀態統計中有大量模板要創建（translate from english），幫幫忙吧。--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 06:54, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

正在幫忙--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 07:07, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
目測是我開的天坑……在沒有放進公告欄之前可能只有Z大（剛剛看到還有Xiaomingyan同學）關注到了吧，一直在進行小修小補ing，因為許多條目級別並沒有超過大綱的級別，所以進度有點慢 囧rz...，大家一起加油吧。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 07:11, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 評論，也不要太急於求成，在需要的時候添加上相應的分類（因為我看到創建了一堆分類，內容是空的，還是加上需要的說明性文字吧），慢一點沒什麼，寧缺毋濫是個好成語啊。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 07:26, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
李同學，我又發現了這個，不知道是不是我的要求苛刻了一點，不過，真的是別太着急啊。這裏面的內容分明是大綱級別的旅行路線才應該有的，參照英文對應模板好好翻譯一下才是正經辦法吧。阿魯~--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 07:34, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 提醒，條目數量不是用來看爽的，而是要真的對得起那個數字啊，我先去上課了。bye--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 07:38, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
88--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 07:41, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
我不太寫條目（所實話，因為煩），所以對我來說條目數量對我來說是用來看爽的。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
哈哈，你是技術大後援啊，雖然……，但也不能衝刺成一個只有數量沒有內容的空殼，我想說。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 14:40, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Project:管理員

我正與Jackson Chan一同建立這個頁面，歡迎大家一同建設！--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 15:18, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

又是……直接複製中文維基百科了。--TianyinLee (talk) 15:40, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 提醒維基百科沒有改成維基導遊。 囧rz...--TianyinLee (talk) 15:46, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
方針那些怎麼可以不像維基導遊啊？--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 15:52, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
？一頭霧水中--TianyinLee (talk) 16:02, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
把所有中文維基計劃和英文維基導遊的方針結合成我們的方針 ：P （好的留下，壞的拿走）--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 04:26, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持不過頁面上面那個跳轉的大框框，太讓人誤會這裏是維基百科了，而且內鏈的文章以後也不確定會不會誕生，或者知否是適合維基導遊的 囧rz...就像之前引入的那個獎勵措施一樣，類似的還有提刪頁面。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 06:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 評論：頁面標題應該是 Project:管理員。--Great Brightstar (talk) 10:29, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
GB,現在就是這個標題啊。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 01:08, 25 September 2013 (UTC)--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 01:08, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

中文維基導遊QQ群

我創建了一個QQ群，或許會便於討論？群號碼：42912114 歡迎加入。驗證信息只要寫維基導遊就好。--TianyinLee (talk) 16:01, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

對不起，我沒有QQ，只有FB，Twiter，Google+。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 02:33, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
咱們香港沒有QQ--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 04:23, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
哈哈，咱們香港是有QQ的，關鍵看個人使用習慣了。騰訊香港，多一個更便捷的討論地點而已，因為IRC還是用不習慣呀OTZ--TianyinLee (talk) 05:26, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
香港的同學可以用QQ International，表示這個比普通版的簡潔些。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 08:34, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
對不起，我沒有QQ，只有IRC. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:08, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
那就努力向內地網民發展吧。還有，咱們應該把一個百度貼吧站點發展壯大起來，爭取來自貼吧的網友的支持。--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:42, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
剛註冊：2233573029.--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:46, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

新來者

我覺得我們應該想一下如何邀請更多的人來參與。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 11:07, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

最重要的一點：建站。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:20, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
建站+1。不過Z大，有後續麼？--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 11:57, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:19, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
建站最重要的一點：更多人的參與--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 12:29, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
估計建站後情況能好一些吧，現在許多人都不知道中文維基導遊的。--Transuniverses歸零者talk 13:01, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
設法從社交網站吸引更多人過來參與。--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:51, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
一聲嘆息（反對）--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:58, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
建站後才可以吸引更多人過來參與（在Wikimedia Incubator上新手很難適應，如加入Wy/zh、維基導遊的基本結構不適合新手）--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 10:46, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
那咱就反覆爭取建站，這次不成再來下次。--Great Brightstar (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

通知一下

  1. 我正在改良Project:管理員上面的框框，以免人家以為這裏是維基百科，那就不好了
  2. 我正在建立Project:翻譯請求。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 06:48, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
  1. 不能再同意，我還是希望頁面能有維基導遊的特色的，希望閣下能夠儘快完成這項工作。
  2. 參見需要翻譯的條目分類和{{translate}}模板說明檔還未翻，一會上課結束繼續。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 07:47, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
創建條目時用「en:voy:英文條目名」加入英文維基導遊的跨維基連結，方便他人參照添加新內容，另外無內容的頁面，儘量少創建，別太拼「條目創建數」了。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 07:52, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
其實我從來都沒有去拼條目創建數，只是在達到某一個目標後很有成功感啊。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 08:33, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
另外，就算我是在拼條目創建數，也只是為了快點建站啊。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 09:04, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
現在不是說這樣不好，而是說通過舉手之勞就可以更加利於其他人對條目進一步的改進，列出英文跨維基連接能為其他人提供一個信息來源，由於現在我們無法連結wikidata，只能用這樣的方式。如果真的只是為了創建條目而創建條目的話，大可用機械人，不是嗎？機械人創建條目就會有人站出來反對，但用人力完成相同的事情就是合理？如果我話說得有不到位的地方，請見諒，但我對閣下的熱情表示高度地肯定。大家都想建站，但這不是取巧的理由，我只能說到這裏了，以上。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 10:45, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
通知一下：通知一下。--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 10:48, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
看來，我會檢討一下自己的了，但是，我想知道我所創建的條目中，有什麼可以改善。另外，為了可以盡快建站，我希望大家都能夠更加和諧的相處，謝謝。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 10:58, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
就個人觀點，我覺得TianyinLee說的還是有一定道理的，無論是創建條目或優化條目都沒有錯，可兩者兼顧並進才是我們應當重視的。希望大家都能多搜集一些資料豐富條目，現在大部分條目對於旅行者都是沒有實際意義的，因為條目內信息太少了。--Transuniverses歸零者talk 11:19, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

東歐及西歐

其實我覺得是應該保留的，因為根據Project:地理分層，這是叫『洲分區』啊--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 09:35, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

我先保留意見，看看大家怎麼認為。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 10:47, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，不過西歐這個分區大致上看沒有東歐用得多。--Transuniverses歸零者talk 11:22, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

條目名稱中需要加上行政級別嗎？

這邊主要是傾向於旅行，所以需要寫出行政級別在條目名稱中嗎？英文維基導遊中的做法是不寫級別，比如雲南省的條目名稱就是雲南，在西南地區的介紹中wiki代碼寫成[[云南]]省即把行政級別額外寫出來。請看這裏。同時這樣也能避免有的行政全名過長的問題。--TianyinLee (talk) 06:59, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

之前有個討論有人提這邊標題和維基百科不一樣，建議改成一樣的（翻存檔沒找到），之後所有涉及大陸的條目都被改成了現在這樣。英語維基百科中的相關條目也是沒有級別的（除了個別比較低級別或同名的行政區劃），不過這邊的條目和維基百科條目並不完全一一對應，所以也許可以考慮改一下。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 07:50, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
現在的省份條目名稱中帶着行政級別名稱，但是分類中卻屬於地區條目，所以實際上行政級別寫在條目名稱反而有了一點點的不合適。而且行政級別這樣的東西只有在華人城市才會加上，其他國家的地方比如東京就沒有寫作東京都。所以我還是認為應該不同於維基百科的命名原則，畢竟這裏是旅遊指南網站。--TianyinLee (talk) 14:59, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
其實我也傾向於不帶行政級別名稱。最好在重名時才帶上行政級別名稱，並且用簡稱。比如恩施土家族苗族自治州稱作「恩施州」，其政府駐地稱作「恩施市」。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 11:50, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持Xiaomingyan的主意，誰會叫寧夏回族自治區呢。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:00, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持我也支持，我原本還以為這個討論會無疾而終呢，因為之前的行動是吧XX全都移動到XX市……--TianyinLee (talk) 10:08, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，我覺得大部分城市和國家的條目名稱都可以簡寫，但有一些市轄區和縣如北京市的東城區、寧波市的鎮海區和天津市的薊縣可以按行政名稱命名條目以示區別，而像是北京市、內蒙古自治區等條目都可以將名字改為北京、內蒙古而條目正文中一些地方則仍採用「北京市」、「內蒙古自治區」吧。--Transuniverses歸零者 11:50, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 提醒：說到單字縣名我突然想到鄭州市升級之前好像叫做鄭縣。單字縣名一定是不能去掉行政級的吧 囧rz...。不過北京的東城區什麼的，不是單獨一個單獨的條目，而是北京條目的一個子頁面，所以不用太做區分吧。另外，英文版的是東城、西城、豐臺、海淀這樣的，可以參考一下。--TianyinLee (talk) 16:01, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
看來關鍵不在於是不是有行政級別名稱，而在於平時或者說在旅遊上怎麼稱呼某個地點。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:35, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
可以移動了嗎？--Byfserag (talk) 13:00, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
這個討論現在可以確定結果了吧。--TianyinLee (talk) 14:50, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
應該是有結果了。另外我覺得地區列表裏也沒必要把行政級別寫出來，但在條目的導言段落應該要給出正式全稱。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:37, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
+1--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 06:50, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
我快移死了，誰能幫我移動下。--Byfserag (talk) 09:38, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
移完了別忘了用User:YiFeiBot/Movecat移動分類。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:50, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
how to?--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 12:39, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
你看一下頁面歷史，機械人每小時都來檢查。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:44, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持習慣問題這邊沒必要那麼嚴謹。--Qa003qa003 (talk) 04:14, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

翻譯請求

Project:地理分層，謝謝--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 11:05, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

我已經在翻譯了，不過裏頭的例子要更換的比較多，所以有點慢。明天空閒時間比較多，爭取明天翻譯完。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 12:55, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
協同翻譯中--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 14:43, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

 建議 創建一個 Project:翻譯請求，收集一下大家的翻譯請求。--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:50, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

參見需要翻譯的條目分類和{{translate}}--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 09:12, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
翻譯之後要把原來英語的版本刪掉嗎？--Tobesherry (talk) 11:59, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
當然啊，這裏是中文維基導遊麼，如果有不確定的可以用註釋代碼留在文中，待他人翻譯。全文翻譯結束以後移除translate模板。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 12:19, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

宣傳頁面

為了方便宣傳，大家能在Project:聯絡我們中方置宣傳頁面link(QQ,Facebook,Tiwter,Wechat,weibo,還有什麼的自己寫)嗎？--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 12:07, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

先建一個子頁面試試看。--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:35, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

俄羅斯

大家好，這個條目是小弟第一條正式建立的長頁面（15,000字節以上），希望大家能夠給我一點評語，謝謝。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 10:07, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

  1. 注意是不是重複了
  2. Pagebanner
  3. Interwiki
  4. Project:條目模板/段落--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:45, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

大家的意見

小弟是Wiki協作線上聚的成員，剛剛聽到了各界對我們的意見。

  1. 有人認為應該先求有再求好。
  2. 有人認為應該有一個統一的編寫守則。
  3. 有人認為應該有完善的條目評級制度。
  4. 有人認為只以點列式列出餐館/餐館區的名字，不介紹這些地方，人們會一頭霧水。
  5. 有人認為地圖標示使用繪圖軟件加上去就好了，不用刻意要用複雜方式去標示。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 12:53, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
補充，有人認為不應該把Star article直譯作明星條目，應該譯作星級條目或星級指南。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 13:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
似乎還都是一些不錯的主意。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 13:21, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
你應該說出這些意見是誰說的，反正大家到這裏也能看到。我們也不是什麼黑幫老大或是宗派大老，身份也沒有那麼不見得光吧。鄙人知道閣下中學肄業，會應考DSE。口試裏面你複述他人的意見，你不說提出這個意見是哪個考生（當然你不會知道他的名字），只說「有人」，這樣我也不知道考官會怎樣了。請閣下考慮。--春卷柯南夫子 ( 茶寮 | 土木記 )13:31, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
對上面的幾個意見表達下看法：
  • 意見1和下面的評級制度以及Star article一起說。我對意見1的認識是，我們應該先把比較高等級分層的目的地都創建出來，以便低等級分層條目能夠有正常的麵包屑導航。創建時可以不追求質量，但至少應該使用條目模板，並進行合理的評級。評級制度，現在的評級制度確實很不完善，需要大家一起努力完善。Star article。「星級」可以表示高等級的、明星級的含義，但「星級」還有名詞性的（酒店、賓館等的）等級的含義，這個含義會產生星級條目是一種評級制度這種歧義，但實際上Star article是最高的一個等級。
  • 意見2。確實需要編寫守則。
  • 意見4。listing模板有一個content字段，是專門寫介紹用的。
  • 意見5沒有看明白。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 14:28, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
正在群里討論。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:33, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
在下認為Xiaomingyan說得很全面。關於評級的那個頁面列出了需要的模板和分類。希望大家可以補足，Gabrielchihonglee創建的分類頁面大都缺少文字描述，創建模板時參考英文版寫清楚內容，不要直接複製其他評級等級裏面的內容 囧rz...--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 15:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
認同Xiaomingyan的觀點，還有完善編寫規則和格式細部應當得到重視。--Transuniverses歸零者talk 01:08, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
我會為這些缺少文字描述的文章作改善，最少會達可用級--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 01:47, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

到底要什麼時間才可以建站？

那個MF-W一直都不回復，到底要什麼時間才可以建站？（我已經等得很不耐煩了）--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 10:31, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Who knows?--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 11:09, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
我對MF-W一提起我們建站他就has left the channel（離開IRC），據說他很rude when he is annoyed（不禮貌當他覺得很煩）. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:20, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
是啊，希臘語才多少條目都建站了。--Transuniverses歸零者talk 11:21, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
真的非找MF-W不可？--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 11:59, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
這是最簡單的方法。第二，可以找其他Langcom成員和New wiki importer，而MF-W兩個都是，並且他主要負責這些。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:13, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
我們不如直接跟WMF講或者是找其他人吧。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 13:29, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
還有，順便把 MF-W 的反應講給他們--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:48, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 評論與其這樣苦大仇深，不如先抓緊時間完善本站點。就現在這樣的站點對於旅行者來說，意義不大。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 15:01, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Ebe123建議 mailto:langcom@lists.wikimedia.org --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 02:16, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
你代表我們去吧--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 03:11, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
算了，萬一 MF-W 又嫌煩了怎麼辦？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:25, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
其他Langcom成員多得是。--Byfserag (talk) 09:29, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
那你代表我們去吧--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:35, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
等Super Wang回來他代表我們去，他是測試管理員。--Byfserag (talk) 11:10, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
IMHO Super Wang 太 inactive 了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:23, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
我英語太爛，不能去。--Byfserag (talk) 11:34, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

道歉

我這一次是來跟大家真心道歉的，我知道我以前對大家帶來了不小的煩惱，也很感謝大家對我的包容。對於我為大家帶來的麻煩（尤其是對Tianyin Lee的麻煩），請容許我在此對你們說一聲，對不起，希望大家能夠原諒我以前的過錯。另外，我會把我所創建的條目改良，最小也會達到大綱級的水平。請大家多多指教，謝謝。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 03:50, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

其實還好吧，大家加油。被尤其到了，有點不好意思了呢。(─.─|||--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 04:57, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

先求量再求好

大家看看Wy/vi/Trang_Chính，人家1418條目就建立了，證明只要多條目（至少也過1000條吧）就能夠建站。所以，我認為還是不要談質素了，快點建好1000條條目再說吧。需然好像不太好，但是否則就會很久很久都不能建站了，不知道大家的意下如何。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 09:33, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

那至少是被討論過的： http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/langcom/2013-July/thread.html --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:46, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
……--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 12:18, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
看過了鏈接一下，還有他們的建站計劃頁面，人家能夠建站，原因是：1）人家社群活躍，條目數量多（這個我們現在看來也是，不過人家條目數是咱的3-4倍）；2）界面翻譯好（這個可能比較難，因為我們中文分成幾種形式，即是台灣正體、香港/澳門繁體、大陸/馬新簡體，而在http://translatewiki.net/ ，zh的界面翻譯是不許編輯的）；3）人家調查了可行性（沒人做過）；4）人家有調查，大多數社群成員支持計劃成立（這我們有端倪）。上述問題解決了，建站不成問題。--春卷柯南夫子 ( 茶寮 | 土木記 ) 14:48, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
其實我比較想知道大家同不同意「先求量再求好」。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 15:43, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
關於第二點其實是已經翻譯了的，因為直接翻譯zh的話難免會出現分歧所以翻譯的是zh-hans和zh-hant。zh-hans現在的狀態是全都翻譯完成了。連接在此

[Langcom] Approval of Votic Wikipedia

Hi all,
I propose to approve Votic Wikipedia (vot).

Meta request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Votic
Test wiki: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/vot
Activity: http://toolserver.org/~pathoschild/catanalysis/?cat=0&title=Wp/vot&wiki=incubatorwiki_p#distribution_201309 (always at least 3 users with >10 edits since 5 months, and also previous such activity in 2012).

Translation of the most-used messages is complete (<http://toolserver.org/~robin/?tool=codelookup&code=vot>).
As this would be the first project in Votic, we also would need an expert to verify the content.
(By the way, verification for Livonian is still pending - my attempts to contact people were unsuccesful).

Best regards,
MF-Warburg

根據此email，大家就可以明白其中的一些建站的條件了。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 23:44, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

and how about us?

--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 06:38, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Well, it's explained on I:CP... Absurd to think that there is any unfairness here. It's just a problem with the Wikitravel/Wikivoyage legacy. --MF-W {a, b} 22:47, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

關於建站的新進展

就此看來，我們應該快要建站了，已經多了人關注了。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 07:36, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

about it. 自己看
[16]自己看。--Byfserag (talk) 08:29, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
What? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:34, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
弄錯連結了。--Byfserag (talk) 08:38, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Please do not copy and paste chat logs here! You are welcome to summarize the discussion however. --Rschen7754 17:35, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

請問大家需不需要Wikitravel上的資源？

注意：本輪投票已經結束，請勿再編輯此段。

我覺得沒有需要。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 09:11, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

 不需要 先說明是 中文維基旅行, 詳細看#關於建站的新進展 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:17, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
另外， 在Super Wang發給我的郵件中
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Zhuyifei1999：
您好。很抱歉，由于我的工作性质特殊，我无法在过去的一段时间内顾及中文维基导游。在下很愿意和您一起探讨中文维基社群未来发展的问题，但是我接下来又要脱机很长时间，故在此我只抽筋拔骨。
WIKITRAVEL的确值得借鉴，然而您应该知道维基导游社群的人们对WIKITRAVEL的态度。他们不太喜欢把原先维基的东西转移到自己的上（事实上，维基导游的很多语言版本都是复刻过来的）。有鉴于此，我们【最好】还是不要WIKITRAVEL的内容，况且它的中文内容不见得不粗糙。
地图的话，可以借用WP中的一个模板来表明经纬度、胜地等信息。
LOGO这件事，我也想过，最近元维基在选举新徽标，我们以前上传的那些都不能用了。唯有等元维基的选举结果出来之后，我们才能定下到底用哪个好。希望阁下明白。
希望以上内容能解开阁下的疑惑。如果有任何问题，9月10日前都可以联系我。
您真诚的
Super Wang

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我認為不需要維客旅行裏面也有關於此的說明，雖然是我翻譯的不過大概就是這個意思：--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 10:26, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
来自维基导游的内容可以在符合使用协议下使用。Internet Brands已确认了维客旅行中的内容在CC BY-SA协议下授权。
然而，Internet Brands和维基媒体基金会之间有着法律诉讼案，所以请在转移维客旅行的内容到维基导游之前先进行讨论。
转移维基导游的内容到维客旅行目前还不可以，因为维客旅行中不准提到维基导游，也就是说，目前无法在协议的要求下列明贡献者。
我也認為不需要那邊的數據。那邊的整體質量不太好，相當多機器翻譯和沒有翻譯通篇英語的頁面，不過有個別條目可以借鑑。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 10:37, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 不需要 ，那裏的文章都是翻譯軟件直接翻譯的，語句都不通順，不過如果哪裏有好的模板的話可以參考一下、但也不要照抄。中文維基導遊應該有一些自己的特色吧。--Transuniverses歸零者talk 10:52, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

以5票支持，0票反對，0票中立，本次投票通過。結論為：我們將不會使用Wikitravel裏的任何內容，但個別有用的條目除外。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 13:39, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

建議儘快把討論結果合併到方針裏面去。--Great Brightstar (talk) 19:48, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

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