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关于模版

现在中文维基导游是测试版，所以我要如何建立一个模版呢，直接建立会提示我没有权限。Wikilikui (talk) 11:08, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

在模版名 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:29, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
template:xx。Super Wang (talk) 23:41, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

建议关注度要求不要太高

首先，这是一个旅游网站，应该按照旅行手册的写作规范来书写（正如维基百科按照百科全书的规范书写一样）。

所以任何规范的旅游指南收录的内容我们基本也可以收录。

另外我记得吉米威尔士在去年一次访谈节目（扣扣熊报告）中，很休闲地提到，只要去过一个地方，就可以不用太拘束地把自己的经历写到维基导游中，所以我也觉得，在避免广告嫌疑的前提下，可以考虑把关注度要求放低一些。

另外，也许可以利用机器人和国家旅游景点列表来大规模创建条目。 --燃玉 (talk) 18:15, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

补充：
“例如，关于巴黎的条目应该叙述艾菲尔铁塔、罗浮宫等名胜，但您最喜欢的酒店的电话号码、香榭丽舍大街卖的牛奶咖啡的价钱……都不是适当的内容。这些资讯请考虑写入[[wikivoyage:|维基导游]]，但出于著作权上的考虑，请勿随便抄录其他文字，除非您是版权持有者。”——中文维基百科，维基百科不是什么。
——这是不是间接说明，维基导游可以收录酒店、咖啡厅等内容？燃玉 (talk) 20:34, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
好像条目规范里面明确要写的是看、做、买、吃、喝、休息几方面而且有专门的酒店信息模板可以用--TianyinLee (talk) 02:42, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
阁下真想像宿雾语和瓦瑞瓦瑞语那样刷机械人编辑？别忘了这事在互助客栈那边已经吵得很惹火啦。--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:53, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
当然不是啦:-)不知道你为什么会想到这些= =燃玉 (talk) 15:10, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

图片

请问如何给pagebanner选择合适的图片？在维基共享资源上面没找到。--归零者 (talk) 10:28, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

在Commons上面用分类的方法找到相应的图片，然后剪裁成宽高7:1的自己上传，记得加上wikivoyage banners的分类就好。另外可以试试看在这里以子分类中找一找，banner图还挺多的呢。--TianyinLee (talk) 10:37, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Clickable button模板不正常

{{Clickable_button}}这个模板为什么后面一直跟着]，有时候是一个有时候是两个，看了下代码，和zhwp上面的一样，解决不了--TianyinLee (talk) 17:15, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

好了，缺少一个子模板。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:20, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

明星条目

我们需要明星条目（Star articles）吗？ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hkjacksonhk (talk • contribs) 05:26, 30 August 2013‎ (UTC)

我们条目太不全了，还是等建站后再说吧。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:51, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

关于本页面的名称

本页面的名称应该译自Tourist Office吧，不过这个词应该是旅游局、旅游办公室、旅游咨询处这类的意思吧。另外非目标里有一条“维基导游不是旅行社（travel agency）”，还是换个名字吧。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:30, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

同意--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:52, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
同意，改了--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 09:34, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

PageBanner

这个Template:Pagebanner怎样用？说明文档说了都用不了，求人来救救。（我现在只能直接放照片）--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 07:15, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

当初我正是因为弄不明白这个菜才删除模板，不知被谁又建立起来了。那个模板根本就不是像英文里那么用的。Super Wang (talk) 10:49, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
此话怎讲？ 归零者 (talk) 11:25, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
这个用不了应该是class="topbanner"，class="name"等等等等没定义，管理员你快去把英文的“偷”过来。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 13:49, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
拿过来的话以现在我们只能用前缀页面的地位可以生效吗？--TianyinLee (talk) 13:59, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
不太了解孵育场的机制，这个还是让管理员来解决吧。或者到Incubator:Community Portal问一下？--Xiaomingyan (talk) 14:53, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
建议涉及到JS，CSS，LUA的等建站后再搞，否则可能影响别的维基。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:59, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
找多点人来建站就好吧。Incubator有说怎样才能建站吗？？--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 15:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
请参考Help:Manual/zh，还有元维基中已经提交申请了，只是一直没有答复。但是申请建站的首页显示的是我们属于不用走固定程序的维基，需要的只是扩充，所以具体是怎样也不是很清楚。--TianyinLee (talk) 16:31, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
mediawiki名字空间确实没法“偷”。只能等建站后再说。Super Wang (talk) 23:34, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
还有一个方法就是在一个统一的页面（如MediaWiki:Common.js与MediaWiki:Common.css偷来。然后每人在Special:Mypage/common.js加入importScript("MediaWiki:Common.js")，Special:Mypage/common.css加入@import url('/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css') --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:09, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
似乎大部分都正常了，除了下面的目录。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 02:14, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
  • 要令所有条目统一使用{{Pagebanner}}。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 02:24, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
    支持 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:29, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
    是什么正常了？貌似看到页面下面的提示这是大纲的模板可以居中了其他的还没有看到有什么变化。另外这些css/js重定向可以生效吗？--TianyinLee (talk) 06:03, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
    我试了下，这个模板可以正常显示图片和标题了，不过似乎目录还是不正常。所以css/js重定向有效？好神奇--TianyinLee (talk) 06:10, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
    你可以看一看我做了哪些编辑，就知道了。（事实上我从MF-W得到了帮助）--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 06:21, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
    支持--归零者 (talk) 06:40, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
  • 在{{Pagebanner}}中显示目录方法：{{Pagebanner | TT Banner.jpg }}--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 06:15, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
左下方的目录部分是不是可以将高度再调小一些？--归零者 (talk) 06:28, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Zhuyifei1999加油--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 06:31, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
解决了（我们MediaWiki软件可能有英文维基导游不同(没有tocFloat））--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 06:35, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
我知道参数直接填图，不过原来翻译的模板说明档的信息需要更新一下了。我说的是目录TOC无法显示。--TianyinLee (talk) 07:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
不是很正常吗？你试试吧缓存刷新一下，或给我一个屏幕截图。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:10, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
[1]难道是要显示目录还要用到别的参数？我开看预览的时候目录闪了一下就消失了。保存的结果也是没有目录的。--TianyinLee (talk) 09:39, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
目录在Banner底部，与英文维基导游一样。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:55, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
banner的图是7：1的，是不是目录太靠下了，我试着全选页面，好像看到banner图的下面有东西，但是不能确定是不是目录，因为看不到。要不你建立或调整一个页面作为范例让我看看怎么用这个模板吧。谢谢。--TianyinLee (talk) 10:23, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
1. 哪个浏览器与皮肤？2. 英文维基导游也这样吗？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:45, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
1.Vector@Chrome. 2.英文维基是正常的。未全选截图和全选的的截图。--TianyinLee (talk) 12:23, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
试试加 #toc, .toc { display: inline-block; } 到User:TianyinLee/vector.css。我偶尔也用Vector@Chrome或Modern@IE，但从没出现过这事。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

添加了，可是还是不正常，你看我添加的对吗？--TianyinLee (talk) 14:33, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

看来我还真不知道。右键inspect element（审查元素）看看有没有错误，或明天核对一下。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
清除cookie，重新登录以后又显示出来了，所以我还是不知道……为什么--TianyinLee (talk) 15:39, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
解决了？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:54, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

看看这个：搜索结果，除了我们的全部不工作。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:36, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

哈哈，因为我们有资深工程师<(￣︶￣)>--TianyinLee (talk) 03:39, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Z大，我都要崩溃了，都不知道我干嘛了，现在又不显示目录了，又要清除cookie了。cookie里面会存什么东西导致不显示目录呢？--TianyinLee (talk) 05:55, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
我真不知道，除非你给我操作你电脑，或给我很多很多inspect element（审查元素）的截屏。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:29, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
审查元素那么多，具体要哪一块的？--TianyinLee (talk) 10:45, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
我找到了一个叫做wm_hidetoc的cookie，就是它的问题，但是为什么会生成这个玩意。--TianyinLee (talk) 11:16, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
原来如此！我知道了。你在目录上点过hide。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:25, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
YAY! 解决了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:46, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

先别着急YAY啊，这页的目录上面的隐藏按钮？那岂不是永远不能碰了？--TianyinLee (talk) 13:21, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

不是，你碰了没影响了[2]。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 13:25, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
注意要清空缓存并硬性重新加载。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 13:41, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

hi

just say hi--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:35, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

希望维基导游能够早日发展壮大！--归零者 (talk) 15:53, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
：慢慢写，慢慢建站吧！--Tobesherry (talk) 11:48, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

段落标题

目的地条目段落标题已经基本翻译完成，某些译法可能不合适，需要讨论。[[Talk:Project:条目模板/段落|讨论传送门]]。

关于首页条目统计

前几天的时候就一直都是123条目，我怎么建新的国家都不变化，今天反而成106了，这怎么回事？--TianyinLee (talk) 16:23, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

页面写著<div id="pagecount">已有[[Special:Prefixindex/Wy/zh|<span style="font-size: 120%; font-weight: bold;">'''{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Wy/zh}}'''</span>]]篇旅游指南</div>有点怪!--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 02:16, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
我把Category:Wy/zh尽量少直接放东西在里边，移到别的地方了。现在因该修好了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 02:28, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

关于建站

请问中文维基导游的条目数量达到多少才能独立建站？或者说要符合其它的条件？ --归零者 (talk) 06:34, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

要问问meta才知。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 06:44, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
  1. Why must all pages be prefixed?

There are several reasons:

  • Logically, to distinguish the pages between the test languages.
  • For example, if there is one page (e.g. "Europa") which is the same in many, many languages. Which test will have an article with that name? What should the other test have to do? Prefixes solve this problem.
  • The prefixed pages will be imported when your test language has its own subdomain, the unprefixed pages will not.

Pages have to be imported instead of just copied. It is very very hard to import pages without a prefix. The prefixed pages will be listed in the analysis for your test language, the unprefixed not. So, in some way, you will get your own wiki faster :-) --Hkjacksonhk (talk) 06:57, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

这好像不是同一个主题吧？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:03, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

估计要5倍的编辑就能建站了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 05:09, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

首页要不要装修一下？

既然css已经支持了。--TianyinLee (talk) 09:40, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

支持只要不头重脚轻。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:53, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
支持，主页再colorful一些就好了，就像英文维基导游，但有创意一些更好。--归零者 (talk) 10:02, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
哦，明白了，不过现在只有建立了那一个模板，其他的还没弄。晚点再弄吧，先出门以一下。--TianyinLee (talk) 10:17, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
已完成，不过，一飞（猜的字，不对勿怪哦-_-。）你后来加的空白<!-- -->说明有什么作用呢？另外，顶栏和每月目的地之间的空白异常的宽，不解。--TianyinLee (talk) 03:46, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
你猜错了就是尝试解决顶栏和每月目的地之间的空白异常的宽，但已解决了。IMHO我真不想让中文维基导游和英文的差不多，现在少了读万卷书，行万里路，而且欢迎光临维基导游也不是特别好看。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:58, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
读万卷书 行万里路。这个是我的疏忽，那现在去加上吧。不过原来的主页也是用英文搬过来的，是英文的旧版。--TianyinLee (talk) 05:02, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
建议“光临”二字字号和旁边的一样大。另原来的首页上面的标题部分是我按法语和英语的改的，下面的的部分是Mikepanhu设计的，后来调整了下顺序。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:36, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
我了个擦！！今天打开首页被吓了一跳，总不能什么都照搬英文吧，翻译已经把我累得够呛了……Super Wang (talk) 08:32, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
格言加上了，不知效果有多烂（囧）。Super Wang (talk) 08:56, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
翻译什么东西？--TianyinLee (talk) 10:46, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

现在怎样？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 06:25, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

那些方针政策大多是我翻译的，那都多少年前的事了。Super Wang (talk) 06:33, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
不过翻译是挺辛苦的，现在加了格言的首页banner还是会把最后一行挤出去--TianyinLee (talk) 06:43, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
强制刷新要我说多少遍？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 06:47, 31 August 2013 (UTC)


面包屑的实现原理

  1. 石河子市这个地方写的属于新疆，但是新疆页面不存在，所以他是怎么识别新疆位于中国的？后来我发现我那个导航是原来手写上去的，囧RZ
  2. 月球这个页面写了IsPartOf参数是宇宙，为什么页面上方不显示面包屑导航？--TianyinLee (talk) 17:21, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
  3. IsPartOf可不可以写一个名字显示另一个名字啊，比如宁夏回族自治区，显示为宁夏这样。--TianyinLee (talk) 17:32, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
  1. 因为宇宙这个页面不存在。
  2. {{DISPLAYTITLE? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

手机网页（移动版视图）浏览效果

  1. {{banner}}这个模板里面给手机写的版面的==二级标题==显示正常，但这个就无法正常显示了{{mapbanner}}，一直在网页里显示源码== 欢迎光临维基导游 ==，是不是模板里面的{{{1}}}含有链接而无法正常显示？传送门。
  2. 还有，除了mapbanner、DOTM、OTBP、FTT意外，其他部分并没有对手机版网页的优化，需要加吗？--TianyinLee (talk) 04:47, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
  • OTBP和DOTM的icon是一样的!?--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 04:52, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
英文版也没有[3]，所以不确定。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:56, 30 August 2013 (UTC)


Template:Warningbox

Template:Warningbox基本可用，请帮帮我翻译！！！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:23, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

旅行警告 警告：Template:Warningbox基本可用，请帮帮我翻译！！！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:23, 30 August 2013 (UTC)


+翻译

谁能帮我翻译这句话：By clicking "Submit", you agree to the <a class="external" target="_blank" href="http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_use">Terms of use</a>, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the <a class="external" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Full_text_of_the_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_license">CC-BY-SA 3.0 License</a>--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:20, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

我认为：点击“提交”按钮后，表示您同意我们的<a class="external" target="_blank" href="http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_use">使用条款</a>，同时您同意以<a class="external" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Full_text_of_the_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_license">CC BY-SA 3.0协议</a>不可逆地发布您的贡献。 --TianyinLee (talk) 04:50, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. BTW, 你要刷新一下缓存，我对两个JS又做了编辑。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:56, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
好像是在修改do sleep eat这些模板吧，现在模板最后生成的那个浅灰色edit已经变成中文了，但是在模板里面选择类型以后，自动切换模板类型后没有加上前缀。--TianyinLee (talk) 04:58, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
你再刷新试试，我的很正常[4]--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 05:07, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
正常了，不过有的模板还不存(＞﹏＜)--TianyinLee (talk) 05:13, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

繁简地区词转换的下拉列表

现在在用了Pagebanner模板的页面里，banner图左上的页面名称是浮动在最上层的，繁简地区词转换都被它覆盖导致无法点击。如果页面名称短一点的光标还能绕过去，名词长的就把繁简地区词的下拉列直接截断了光标无法绕都没法绕。--TianyinLee (talk) 05:11, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

没错，是个问题。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 05:29, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
YAY! 又解决了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 05:40, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
厉害的呀。--TianyinLee (talk) 05:45, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

会议室存档

会议室太多东西在，不如把讨论完成的拿去存档吧-Hkjacksonhk (talk) 07:01, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

支持--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:04, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

我建议搞个BOT来。超过1月没消息就存档。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:29, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

我先做了一个Incubator:Administrators#YiFeiBot_.28Operater:_Zhuyifei1999_.28talk.29.29。如果行政员同意，我就运行。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:54, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
  • 支持--Transuniverses归零者 13:28, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

机器人

我想有几个任务可以给机器人：

  1. 存档页面
  2. 清理涂鸦墙
  3. 转换模版（如位于=＞IsPartOf)
  4. 刷新分类（如Category:需要创建上级位于分类的条目有些已经创建，但条目还没更新）

--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:14, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

已经不把IsPartOf翻译成位于了？--TianyinLee (talk) 17:02, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
感觉也许IsPartOf更好。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 00:24, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

dotm/otbp/ftt图标

我刚翻译了由7个模板组成的一个在存档页面显示图标的模板{{title-icons}}，刚整理结束。过程中我发现曲径和每月这两个的图标是不一样的，于是修正就去了曲径通幽的图标。不过感觉曲径通幽的图标怪怪怪的。我们有没有必要换一个，或者重新设计这三个的图标？--TianyinLee (talk) 21:08, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

那个应该是Disambigation的图标。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 00:22, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
不过也不奇怪，曲径通幽就是不寻常的地方。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 00:32, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
昨天弄到半夜5点多了，现在还很困……我的想法是做成中文版的另外一系列小图标。大概可以用到汉字比如“曲”、“地”、“题”、“歧”之类什么的。BTW，消歧义和曲径通幽一样怎么办。--TianyinLee (talk) 03:26, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
中立，我更喜欢图标，但也支持创新。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 06:41, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
不建议另做图标，维基数据计划中有一个Badges特性，另做图标会造成困扰。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 06:50, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
那现在消歧义和曲径通幽的已经相同了，不会困扰。--TianyinLee (talk) 08:31, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
我的意思是在不同语言版本的网站上的相同栏目用不同的图标，会对用户造成困扰。另外消歧义应该是不会算在Badges里的，所以应该不会影响这个特性。不过英语版消歧义和曲径通幽使用同样的图标确实很奇怪，可以考虑在英语版问一下或提下意见。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 09:17, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
支持--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:24, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

“加一个编目”链接

这个按钮会显示在什么标题旁呢？发现有的章节旁边有，有的章节没有。--TianyinLee (talk) 06:30, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki:ListingEditor.js。没有链接的章节可能名称不用模版的，或没有合适的编目模版。如果要加，叫我（或申请成为所谓的Translator）。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 06:40, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
所以就是首页条目创建指引里面的模板来的吧，我发现里面吧drink翻译成夜生活了，开始我觉得可能是意译，今天我翻了英格兰的一部分，发现drink就是“喝”的意思，里面就各种酒吧、咖啡、奎宁水之类的东西。所以夜生活把范围给限制窄了--TianyinLee (talk) 14:41, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
那个条目模板是我翻译的，我在这里说下我的理解。第一，英语版条目模板标准里明确的说这一段的内容是夜生活。从历史来看，这个标准定型于2009年5月，但有很多条目在这之前就有这一段的内容，在标准形成阶段难免会有不符合未来标准的内容写入条目（也不排除有标准后，有人不看标准，只是看了标题按自己的理解写）。第二，这个段落的内容应该是一些夜生活的场所和在这些场所中的活动（这也是比较低等级地理分层条目中这一段用bar listing的原因），而对饮料的介绍可以看作是一种衍生内容，因为这些场所的主营业务之一就是提供这些酒水，在比较高等级地理分层的条目中介绍这些场所大致的情况时，很自然的就要提到这些场所提供的特色饮料。第三、英语版不同类型的信息的放置指南中，这一段落的示例信息有bar, cabaret, café (or in "eat"), coffee house (or in "eat"), comedy club, dance club, gay bar/club, hookah bar, music club, night club, pub等，如果叫“喝”的话，是很难想到要把cabaret，comedy club，dance club，hookah bar，music club等放到这一段的。（当然这里也提到café可以放到eat里，这里就要看它具体的营业时间和营业目的。对于某些英语条目这段中提到茶，我的理解是应该挪到eat里）另外英语版的多个具体的条目模板（1，2等）里，这段的介绍都提到这段的命名不合理。实际上“夜生活”不仅没有限制这一段的范围，反而把drink表示的范围给扩展了。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:01, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
至少以我了解到的Drink里的编目应是Bar等（如酒吧）--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:08, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

{{Wikipedia}}

我真是搞不懂，怎么会有这个东西？我们那些InterWiki错误只是一个Extension没装。并且voy:Template:Wikipedia也和我们的不符。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:39, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

建议把英语版的这个模板挪过来，那个模板是一种变相的CC署名方式。不过现在那些链接显示在文末有点诡异，可以考虑先保留这类模板，等建站后调整好了再删除。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 09:21, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
另外，现在已经有条目挪了维基百科的内容过来。虽然很怀疑这个模板到底符合不符合CC的规定。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 09:27, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
  1. 我可以尝试用JS处理掉（可惜我技术没那么好，到现在还没成功把Sitenotice弄出来）
  2. CC-BY-SA是符合的。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:46, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
其实你技术很好的，已经把坑爹的PageBanner在这里使用的问题给解决了（希腊语的没整明白还跑英语版去问来着）。祈祷我们能尽快建站吧，有些问题就可以迎刃而解了。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 10:57, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
谢谢这么说。希腊语的Pagebanner应该要有CSS才能解决，也就要有编MediaWiki命名空间的权限。Sitenotice我快弄好了，目前正在测试和准备申请。建站我担心还要几个月。
User:MF-Warburg给我们的评语:However, as a Langcom member, I have taken notice of this and will look into the state of the approval criteria for wy/zh.--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:29, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
你技术真的不要太好啊，全孵化场的wybeta只有中文的Pagebanner的正常的。不过建站这个真的好纠结啊，都没有明确指标啥的，说说不用经过死板的认证程序这下好了，都不不知道怎样才达到建站要求。--Presiding unsigned comment added by TianyinLee 11:33, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
如果用认证程序的话其他如中文维基百科就还没建站呢[5]。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:57, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
呃，那个是因为zh不让翻译啊，只允许zh-hans和zh-hant还有别的。--TianyinLee (talk) 15:40, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

中国区域的划分

第一种 第二种
righy

今天改江苏的时候才发现我昨天吧江西放到华东了，然后又发现第一个图里说江西是华南。所以我们应该用哪一种？--TianyinLee (talk) 05:00, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

建议使用英语的地图，英语的地图分区和我们平时地理上的分区不同，这是按旅行者优先和地理分层方针划分的，把旅游层面有不同特色的地区划分的更好些。如果觉得这种分区法有问题，可以以后本地化地图时修改。（题外话，那个地图已经有简体版了，不过最好不要用，有两个乌鲁木齐，而且地名标的看着眼花。）--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:33, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
关于分区，我觉得至少河南和湖北最好不要划到一个区，河南的主食是面食，湖北的主食是大米，别的差异也相当的多，实际上就是平时说的南北方差异的问题。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:38, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
喀什写成乌鲁木齐的错误我已经修改了，多谢提示还有个中文版。放到条目里面以后由于图片缩小了所以文字看起来也就不花哨了，看起来挺舒服。图应该是要用中文版，如果你还是觉得字体有问题的话，以后可以改，不过我觉得挺好的，你可以去条目里看看。--TianyinLee (talk) 07:02, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
这样的写法还是会和人们一般的认识不同，真的好吗？--TianyinLee (talk) 13:16, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
  1. 对处理的看法：我觉得北边的西北、华北和东北可以不用动，有问题的是南边的划分。在网上大概搜了一下，主要有行政和地理两种分法。上面给出的第二种的那个图应该是行政上的分法，是因为管理需要和某些特殊原因形成的，我觉得参考意义不大。在地理上，南边的是华东、华南、华中和西南，英语的应该也是参考了这种分法，然后根据他们大多数人的理解，作出了调整。我觉得目前可以先这样观察一段时间，不过为了避免误解，可以把南边几个分区的名字换一下，比如中国南部，然后再在中国条目里加条提示。
  2. 对分区的看法：我觉得应该把广西划到广东所在的区，安徽划到江苏所在的区，别的没太大意见。
附上一个应该是用于天气预报的分区的说明图，仅供娱乐。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 14:53, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

ListingEditor建议

呼叫Zhuyifei1999或管理员。（其实我想说为什么这里不能@，虽然我知道可以到你们讨论页留言把你们勾过来）

关于ListingEditor，上免费电话的示例，建议区号不要写+86。中国大陆大多数的免费电话都只能在境内拨打，另外这里还有其他地区的用户。另外还有一些其他建议，不过暂时还没考虑好，就先提这点好了。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:43, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

要改成怎样？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:59, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

新标志入驻Incubator啦！

新标志来啦！见左上角。只是我怎么觉得投票时挺好看一标志，真正用起来就显得有点古怪呢？是不是因为下端到首页链接中间的空白多了点？--Xiaomingyan (talk) 08:00, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

因为名字不在底下？LOL--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:35, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
原来的那个logo下面的字很有特点，结果就这样没了……--TianyinLee (talk) 12:03, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
同意，去meta问一下？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:10, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
可是那三个尖尖中间有个维基导游了，肿么搞。吧中间那个wiki voyage当作图像，然后各语言版仅翻译下面的类似手写的维基导游？不会去meta发音的说。--TianyinLee (talk) 13:18, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

做了一下新标志。

--Xiaomingyan (talk) 12:52, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

第二个120px显示错误。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 13:12, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
第二个和第四个样子好点，第一个有点生硬。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 14:10, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
同意--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:18, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
显示错误处理好后来个投票吧--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 14:29, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
维基导游繁体字雅黑正黑对比
我也觉得二四和一三比起来更自然一些。简体用微软雅黑体还挺好的，不过繁体应该用微软正黑而不是雅黑，这两个字体还是有许多不同的，涉及到了两岸的规范字笔画问题（比如我们的艹是连起来的，对岸是分开的之类的），这里有一张比较两个字体的图，上面是雅黑，下面是正黑，都是没有加粗的版本。--TianyinLee (talk) 15:10, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
不知道微软字体的使用是否有版权的问题。以上四个标志中文字都使用的是文泉驿微米黑。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 04:17, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
呃，你这个还真分不出和雅黑有什么区别。--TianyinLee (talk) 07:34, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

建议早点投票吧。投票后只要在MediaWiki:Gadget-ProjectSpecificLogos.js改一下LOGO就变了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:39, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

有人试过这里的字体吗？--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:50, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

另外，有人清楚字体的版权到底是怎么回事的吗？什么样的字体的自由的？--TianyinLee (talk) 07:13, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
因该是不用收费就能使用的字体。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:49, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Pagebanner2

Zhuyifei1999的Incubator:Administrators#YiFeiBot_.28Operater:_Zhuyifei1999_.28talk.29.29能拿去加Pagebanner吗?Hkjacksonhk (talk) 08:11, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

可以，只要其他人也同意。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:41, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

同意--TianyinLee (talk) 11:48, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

有列表吗？没有的话就要很长时间编程了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:54, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

正在运行了（Special:Contributions/YiFeiBot)--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:55, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

存档

机器人已经改写好了。到底用几天后存档？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:16, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

两周？--TianyinLee (talk) 11:49, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
可以，人工存档就不用了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:53, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
很好!--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 14:06, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

有没有办法把中文维百的大号字工具搬到这里来？

RT。--Great Brightstar (talk) 15:07, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

你真那么喜欢大字？我对于中文维基百科很不喜欢的一点就是它。不过也可以。请在User:Great Brightstar/common.js中加入importScript("MediaWiki:Gadget-large-font.js")。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:22, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

怎么用那些cautionbox一类的东西？？

在中文维基导游里能用吗？。--Tobesherry (talk) 06:53, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

??? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:58, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

你说的是Warningbox吧？Warningbox不难用，用法：{{Warningbox|2013年08月22日，敘利亞首都大馬士革發生沙林毒氣攻擊，請勿前往當地！如果你在叙利亚，請看[[戰區安全手册|戰區安全手册]]。}}--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 09:20, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

cautionbox在英语的wikivoyage里面是有的，和warningbox的出来的标志（红色感叹号）不同的，是一个蓝色的感叹号。--Tobesherry (talk) 11:58, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
已加入--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:39, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

求救SOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

由于小弟色弱（不信有医生纸），所以香港#区域中的颜色弄得一圑XX，求救SOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 08:05, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

这个可能和色弱不色弱关系不大，因为就算不色弱的人也未必就能找到真正一样的颜色，阁下应该去联系图片的制作人去索要详细颜色代码表。BTW，按照Project:地理分层里说的“区”级别的条目不需要单独列成一个条目。其次区域的划分是按照旅行者的角度来分的（见上面的讨论，中国的区划和实际的并不一样），由于我不太懂香港的区划，所以不知道阁下把香港划得那么细致是否因为这些地方真的有独特且不同于其他地方的景观和文化可以写出一整篇条目？如果不是的话，还请并入一个分区下。--TianyinLee (talk) 09:47, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
颜色方面会再试试，而分区是按香港政府的分区。旅行者的角度不可能把整个新界视成一区，如西贡吃海鲜、大埔和北区是远足，元朗看湿地，大部份新界酒店都在沙田。所以原有地图以不适用。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 09:59, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

File:Map of Hong Kong 18Districts ZH.svg的作者Moddlyg以很难找到他了……--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:02, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

可以考虑把图片放到制图软件里取色，查看色号。另外关于列表，还有个方针voy:Wikivoyage:Avoid long lists，列表项目最好是5到9条，不要划分过细。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 10:33, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

按地图上的编号顺序，各区的颜色是dcce7c、7b7190、acbca2、cca153、496441、799d63、8fa1a8、728e9a、bbd6e1、c99c7b、c5bd86、bbb1bc、dcb97f、a78268、e70202、ffb29b、ff6e61、a52602。另外不建议把区分得这么细。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 10:54, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

在这里感谢各位的意见和帮助，表格修好了，区也没分得这么细了，谢谢！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 12:48, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

很抱歉刚才网络故障了，刚刚才恢复，没能看到你后续的询问，不过现在问题结局了就好。--TianyinLee (talk) 14:16, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

新标志投票

中文维基导游新标志投票正进行中，请到这里投票。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:20, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

要加点宣传吗？比如在wikipedia:zh:Project:VP（sorry不了解zh.wp的运营机制）。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:43, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
好吧--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 12:52, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

要结束投票吗？中文维基导游的经常使用者都完成投票了。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 03:16, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Project:旅游中心/存档/2012年10月至12月开了三周，所以我就得至少要开一天。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:03, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
ok--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 04:39, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

建议咱们的项目页面改成“Wikivoyage:”开头

RT，英文维基导游已经这样安排了。--Great Brightstar (talk) 09:16, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

强烈反对也许建站时会出错，而Project一定不会--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:23, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
why?--TianyinLee (talk) 09:58, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
或者我去问一问MF-W？最近都没联系上他。（<wm-bot> zhuyifei1999_: Last time I saw MF-W they were quitting the network with reason: Quit: A bientôt N/A at 9/4/2013 7:12:31 PM (3d15h42m26s ago)）--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:57, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

[ ]外链问题

貌似是css里面写的吧，现在wy/zh里所有的[ ]链接都是黑色的，例如这个网易。不过这应该是一个bug吧。--TianyinLee (talk) 03:11, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

英语里的设计是主名字空间是黑色，其他名字空间是蓝色。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 04:03, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

o(︶︿︶)o 唉，我们没有建站啊--TianyinLee (talk) 04:26, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

重开条目段落标题讨论

现有部分条目结构有些混乱，另外因为翻译不同的问题，ListingEditor不能完全正常运作。建议将这些标题翻译定型，现在重开这个讨论，以解决这些问题。[[Talk:Project:条目模板/段落#标题翻译讨论|讨论传送门]]--Xiaomingyan (talk) 07:55, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

旅者大厅和互助客栈

Project:旅者大厅完成工作，welcome for a test!互助客栈的更名工作也完成好了！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:18, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

:D --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:29, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

优化条目计划

优化条目计划，顾名思意，优化条目。不要只顾建站工作（虽然一定要做），但先优化条目水平吧！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 14:25, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

支持说到优化条目，wiktionary:zh:的条目也基本是空的。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:39, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
支持--Xiaomingyan (talk) 04:34, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
支持不过好像写起来还是有难度啊。不知道信息应该怎么摆放和应该放什么信息也是一个问题。--TianyinLee (talk) 07:44, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

调整译名

现在有些直译的译名有点怪异，不太符合中文习惯，建议进行些调整。

  1. Phrasebook，现在直译作短语手册，但这类条目中除了短语，还有单词或完整句子，这里的phrase应该是取其更广义的含义，改成“会话手册”怎么样？

Breadcrumb navigation，现在直译作面包屑导航，直接看上去完全不知道要表达的是什么，不过目前没有好的翻译建议。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 08:39, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

  1. 支持
  2. 我估计Breadcrumb navigation刚开始也没什么实际意义。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:50, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
支持会话手册。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 08:56, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
中文维基百科里已有Wikipedia:zh:面包屑导航了--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:04, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
第2条没有问题了--Xiaomingyan (talk) 11:31, 10 September 2013 (UTC)。

完成：2支持0反对，短语手册改成“会话手册”。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:19, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

维基百科用户框

我在维基百科用户框中弄了个{{User zh.wikvoyage}} ，你可以在维基百科用户页中加上，建站后我会改好用户框。 --Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:34, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Cool！只可惜我不是维基百科人（关于原因有些人知道）--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:00, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
可惜，其他人也可以试试看！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:16, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
看起来不错的样子。--TianyinLee (talk) 15:08, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

关于旅游中心和旅者大厅

关于旅游中心和旅者大厅，en:voy:Wikivoyage:Tourist Office和en:voy:Wikivoyage:Travellers' pub。我们好像正好弄反了。旅者大厅是相当于互助客栈那样的，旅游中心是给使用者提关于旅行方面的问题的。--TianyinLee (talk) 04:34, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

你的理解应该是对的，但目前貌似是因为边栏的原因给合并了（Community portal也合并进来了）。另外建议将Travellers' pub使用“互助客栈”作翻译，这个词中的客栈便有旅行的意味，还可以减少WP用户访问时的困惑，有时候我觉得“互助客栈”这个词就是专门给维基导游设计的。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:42, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
阁下的意思是互助客栈这名字是设计给询问旅游的还是站务讨论的？我有点迷糊了。--TianyinLee (talk) 06:49, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
我是同意阁下对Tourist Office和Travellers' pub的内容的理解的，所以建议将Travellers' pub译作“互助客栈”用于站务讨论（其实Travellers' pub好像并不仅限于站务讨论）。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 07:39, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
同意：把旅游中心改名为互助客栈，然后再弄一个en:voy:Wikivoyage:Tourist Office旅者大厅吧--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
旅者大厅这名字有点拗口，该叫“游客大厅”怎样？--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:44, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

技术问题

刚才发现<pre>这个标记抽了，单行的长度有问题，需要修复一下。另在英语版试了下，也有这个问题。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 08:04, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Example please? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:01, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
YAY！又解决了！--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:48, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
你的这个YAY！我笑了。一┳═┻︻▄--TianyinLee (talk) 11:28, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
框的长度没问题了，但里头字的长度好像还有问题，框底下会有滚动条。[[Talk:Project:条目模板/段落#drink|例子]]--Xiaomingyan (talk) 04:38, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
sorry没看见。pre的overflow我不知道还有什么其他方法解决。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:28, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

建议把维百里面的交通模板搬过来

RT，我发现w:zh:Category:交通模板里面的东西就是专门给维基导游设计的，谁愿意搬过来？--Great Brightstar (talk) 16:52, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Great Brightstar，虽然交通模板很好，但我们的listing template也能用。维基导游不是维基百科，交通模板要做到全世界也有是不可能的。英文和德文维基导游也还没有交通模板，我们要来做什么？旅行者优先，你最好看看--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 08:26, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
最近我发现 w:zh:香港历史博物馆 里面有一些旅游指南那样的资料，我就搬到这儿来了，后来发现里面有些内容须要建大量的模板才能生成，所以就打算从那边移过来一些模板。--Great Brightstar (talk) 15:15, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
那就辛苦你了！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 15:20, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
原文是从这里来的。--Great Brightstar (talk) 15:22, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
不过模板这样全都抓过来是不是有点太多太杂啊。--TianyinLee (talk) 18:21, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
不会的，我去研究过，这些模板的用法都有规律可循，可以方便大家向读者出示合适的旅行路线。--Great Brightstar (talk) 16:07, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
原文竟是我最后编辑 囧rz --Hkjacksonhk (talk) 06:25, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Facebook

要弄个Facebook专页宣传我们吗？（内地朋友要爬（翻）墙了）--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 08:50, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

lol，不知道。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:35, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
你真可怜小心被XXXXXXXXX。（我在香港:p）--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:51, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Our Facebook Page--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:06, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

那个，信息框模板的Logo能设自动大小么？现在这样真的是丑爆了。--TianyinLee (talk) 17:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
原来是错误使用模板了，那个地方不应该用那个模板的说。--TianyinLee (talk) 18:30, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

国语会话手册

编汉语（中文）的会话手册没有什么意义吧，内文的会话对照的部分，相当多都是相同的，另外一些只是语气和使用的场合不同。个人认为应该并入简体与繁体中文，或者另开汉语地区差异的旅行话题，而不是会话手册。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 02:38, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

支持，本来就是中文维基导游地说……--TianyinLee (talk) 03:34, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

机器人 2

机器人快存档页面，互助客栈挤死了！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 03:12, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

貌似当时是定的2周无后续才存档，现在看起来过长了？--TianyinLee (talk) 03:28, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
那就一周。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:29, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

SVG转PNG

我们现在需要把新选出来的logo换成135x135的PNG图片。--Byfserag (talk) 09:51, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

这样吧，大家再提一些标志上面文字微调的建议，调整完后定稿了再转PNG。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 09:55, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
一定要吗？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:08, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
没有建议也没关系。两天后如果没有任何建议，周六晚上（北京时间）就转换。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 11:09, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
支持 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:15, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
其实我已经做好了，效果如下：

--Byfserag (talk) 12:28, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

文字的间距和行距有点不太协调。--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:06, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

  • 个人感觉字号是不是有些大？还是字体的缘故？直观看上去那四个字和外围图标有点不太协调。--Transuniverses归零者 11:20, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
其实这个字的高度比英语最高的字母还小一些，也许是字不够粗吧（不过再加粗繁体就很难分辨笔画了），我会试着做些调整。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 13:42, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

处理后的简体版。繁体版加粗后笔画重叠，仍在处理中。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 14:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

建议改个合适的名字

建议把旅者大厅改成游客大厅，这样叫起来更通顺一些。 发问者: Great Brightstar (talk) 14:04, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

我比较倾向于使用现在的名字。--TianyinLee (talk) 14:40, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Support--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 08:17, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Neutral--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:39, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Support--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:54, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
弱弱补一句，看不出更通顺在哪里了的说。--TianyinLee (talk) 15:07, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
这名字读起来的感觉不太朗朗上口。--Great Brightstar (talk) 16:04, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
莫须有啊╮(╯▽╰)╭--TianyinLee (talk) 18:22, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
读起来没觉得有什么问题，就是觉得“大厅”这个词有点空泛的感觉。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 03:34, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

500条目大行动

你们有信心7天有500条条目吗？Minangkabau语维基百科建立于今年2月，最近该语言维基百科用户正在不断创建各类小行星、作家、物种条目，最近7天就建立了19万个条目，我会香港大大小小的地方拿出来写（明天，现在北京时间11时，要睡觉。）加油吧！ --Hkjacksonhk (talk) 15:01, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

支持，但是太太太小的地方还是算吧，不能算作条目数量吧。--TianyinLee (talk) 15:13, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
先把国家写好吧！！！！！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 15:21, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
加油！七天条目翻倍可不容易。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:28, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
一人每天十条，7天也70条了。现在244，70x3-5=210-350，加油！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 15:52, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
加油！--Transuniverses归零者 13:42, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
路过，支持一下，共同加油！--Chmarkine (talk) 03:57, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Sitenotice

这个里面能不能放一个模板，然后其他人可以编辑那个模板，现在好像只有Z大一个人有权限吧。放个通知都要八仙过海的说……--TianyinLee (talk) 03:38, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

好吧。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:41, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
我也有。--Byfserag (talk) 07:46, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Yeah right. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:42, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Test-administrator

小弟正在考虑申请Test-Administrator，请问大家支持吗？另外，我在Beta.wikipedia上是管理员。所以我想看一下大家的意见，谢谢。另外，我觉得我们应该设法让更多的参与者加入，好让Wy/zh能够尽快建站，谢谢。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 10:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

 反对 21号后我{{支持}} 原因：IMO太早。并且，关于建站，20号后我会与MF-W沟通。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:17, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

大家好

大家好，大家好，我是李智康，今年13岁，是一个中学生，来自香港。我在维基学院里是管理员，刚驻进维基导游，但不是太清楚要有那里开始，请问大家有什么意见给小弟吗？谢谢。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 00:10, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

看看本页面的存档就了解了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:47, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
我们只是在等建站……--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 02:58, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
我最近发现维基百科的许多香港相关条目里面有一些章节含有旅游线路及其他跟旅游有关的注意事项，建议您把这样的章节移到这儿来。--Great Brightstar (talk) 09:48, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
看看我们的范文：西安市、香港历史博物馆、香港。--Great Brightstar (talk) 10:24, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

未经翻译的新建页面

小弟刚刚发现了几条未经翻译的新页面，希望能够让大家关注一下：Project:CC_BY-SA_3.0协议文本，旅行话题--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 10:40, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

CC BY-SA 3.0协议文本好像只有英文，要翻译为中文就……--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:10, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
会误解，且没法律效益。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:16, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
原来如此，真对不起，为大家增添麻烦了。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 11:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
另外，根据en:voy:Wikivoyage:CC-by-sa，我在怀疑是不是真需要这个，毕竟我们不是百科全书。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:57, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
算了吧，反正这是人家的努力啊。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 12:12, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
en:voy:Wikivoyage:CC-by-sa 只是说明人家到底是怎么用这个授权去发布旅游指南的，况且维基全站用的都是 CC 授权。--Great Brightstar (talk) 16:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
先留着这些页面吧，没有什么太大的问题。不过说实话，每个页面下方以及编辑时都有链接至官方文本的链接，专门开一个页面确实没有必要。这里开这个页面没有效力，而且如果官方有些小修改，反映到这边来也会需要一定的时间。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 03:27, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
常见诈骗手段,需要翻译。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 10:03, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

我觉得咱们应该效法维基百科建立一个专门用来提交翻译请求的页面，这样一来谁都可以把自己看到的其他语言书写的好的旅游指南的链接贴到这儿来，求外语帝翻译。--Great Brightstar (talk) 11:49, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

英语维基导游的做法是放Translate模板，模板自动加Articles needing translation分类，Community portal上设Articles needing translation分类的链接。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 12:02, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

奖励制度

大家认为应该设立奖励制度吗？--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 11:17, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

 支持 Barnstar! YAY! --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:28, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
开始建立了。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 11:32, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
直接移植？--TianyinLee (talk) 12:26, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
不，但是十分相似。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 12:30, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
如果是从维基百科的话我得审查了。（不相让维基导游显得呆板，或太百科全书化）--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:36, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
维基资深主编………………翻译奖我一定拿不了T.T--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 13:12, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

奖励制度的参与时间和编辑次数太高了，对新人们没有吸引。我按比例调整了一些！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 13:18, 17 September 2013 (UTC) 奖励制度实在有太多模板，请其他有空的都来帮忙 orz --Hkjacksonhk (talk) 13:42, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

其实我觉得可以再精简一点。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 13:52, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
表示其实不太喜欢这个方式，话说英文维基导游的制度是什么样子的？--TianyinLee (talk) 15:53, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
其实我更喜欢Barnstar。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:55, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
英文维基百科根本没有这个，那维基导游应该也不会有了。--Byfserag (talk) 08:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
说真的，我从没见过除了Barnster以外的奖励制度。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:30, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
在英语维基导游找到了voy:Wikivoyage:Barncompasses，在英语维基百科找到了w:Wikipedia:Service awards--Xiaomingyan (talk) 12:19, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

综合大家所说，其实大家是不是想del了哪一页？--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 08:50, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

维基荣誉与奖励写1，Barnster写2。

    • 倾向于2，不过Barncompass貌似更好？--TianyinLee (talk) 06:03, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

求翻译

求大家把 en:voy:Wikivoyage:Community portal、en:voy:Wikivoyage:Help 翻译出来，谢谢。--Great Brightstar (talk) 16:58, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

正在处理en:voy:Wikivoyage:Community portal--Xiaomingyan (talk) 03:53, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Project:社区主页已建立并部分翻译--TianyinLee (talk) 04:38, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
正在处理en:voy:Wikivoyage:Help，但是我不知道中文应该是什么。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 05:47, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Wikitravel因不明原因没有用Help空间，而是用Project空间放帮助，Wikivoyage导那边的内容时没有修改，其实可以考虑把帮助放到Help空间里。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:59, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
“当你迷茫，失落，害怕，疲倦，烦躁时，斟酌一个问题或要寻求帮助时，你可以来这里。”不知道的还以为是心理医院 囧rz...。--Byfserag (talk) 05:55, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Project:帮助这个页面翻译基本完成，看来要翻译还真得在这里著名，不然重复工作什么的…… 囧rz...上面那句话，照着英文原文翻的，不知道还能如何润色才显得不像要去见心理医生。--TianyinLee (talk) 06:00, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Pagebanner

所有Pagebanner目录位置坏了，要俢理！--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 10:03, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

应该已解决，sorry。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:12, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

动态地图界面语言

我从英文维基导游移动过来了这个{{mapframe}}，但是它生成的那个动态地图的用户界面语言要去哪里才能翻译啊， 囧rz...--TianyinLee (talk) 14:48, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

wikivoyage-ev由WMDE控制，更改应该要通知他们。源代码在 https://github.com/nicolas-raoul/PoiMap2 。地图以后可能移动到 http://poimap2.wmflabs.org (wikitech:New Project Request/PoiMap2)。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:59, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

中文维基导游Facebook

Chi Hong Lee Gabriel是Gabrielchihonglee吗？如果是请回答，加你admin，其他人也可加facebook admin。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 09:55, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

没错，谢谢你。另外，我想申请test-administrator，请问大家支持吗？--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 10:51, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
IMO有点早。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:07, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
我也想申请test-administrator，但我只是在想………………………………--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 12:40, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

我的FB账户--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 10:52, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

我有在FB上申请，看到了吗？--TianyinLee (talk) 14:56, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
我也申请啦。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
申请要先加[6]为好友，才能为大家安排--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:09, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

完成：Xiaomingyan和TianyinLee已加好。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 13:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

小弟的脸书帐号，求加好友，如要加我admin，乐意之至。--春卷柯南夫子 ( 茶寮 | 土木记 ) 13:00, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

叫Gabrielchihonglee (talk)帮你，我无时间用facebook。--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 13:23, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

建站

  1. User:Zhuyifei1999将会在20号联系MF-W，看看能不能建站。
  2. 原来我已经不知不觉中已经为Wy/zh建立36条条目了。
  3. 我们要想办法多找一些人来帮忙。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 14:15, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持--Great Brightstar (talk) 15:51, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，话说现在是不是需要推广一下中文维基导游啊？从最近更改里来看好像一直没有新来者。--Transuniverses归零者talk 11:15, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
WFC?--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 15:25, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

User_talk:MF-Warburg#About_Wy.2Fzh，我刚刚通知了他。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 06:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

MF-W回应是(01:04:56) <MF-W> I will comment on this issue tomorrow --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:12, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
方针针针针针针针针针针针针针针针针针。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 06:19, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
现在怎么样了啊？--Great Brightstar (talk) 09:28, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

关于行政员及管理员的申请

随著中文版的维基导游即将建立，将会有不同的人打算申请上述的两项权利，以帮助维基导游日后的发展。我想在此邀请各位讨论一下投票的机制，谢谢。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 13:59, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

很好很好。--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 14:02, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
??? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:14, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
我的建议是建立一个专门的页面来处理这类事务，并参考维基百科的相关方针制定大纲。--Great Brightstar (talk) 10:29, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 11:53, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Project:管理员.--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 11:56, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

给大家奉献个生僻字解决方案

我刚才引进了Project:Unicode扩展汉字，如果大家碰上什么生僻的地名用字就到这里来。--Great Brightstar (talk) 15:53, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

表示没看懂，请问怎么用？--TianyinLee (talk) 09:26, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
要是你用的是 Windows，那么你可以挑一款支持大字集的字体放到 C:\Windows\Fonts。辅助工具里面的 BabelMap 有人汉化，那里也有下载地址。至于 BabelMap 在线版，你可以参考下百度贴吧里面的这个帖子。--Great Brightstar (talk) 11:12, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

requests for adminship

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如果9月27日前我们能成功建站，这个申请就会送去global的监管员，请注意！
hahahahaha 囧rz... 提名User:Hkjacksonhk：自荐。我自已正想申请Test-Administrator，请问大家支持吗（当然你要申请我一定会支持）？我在参与社群、站务工作，一直试图努力完善自己，不仅学到了很多新知识，自己也乐在其中。我期待能善用此权，继续为社群和站务作出贡献。希望大家能给予我机会。（目前我有编辑量1000+、巡查?+（每天何时都巡查！？）…）I want to be the admin of this wiki.

  • 三个问题的回答
  • 您期望帮忙怎么样的管理事务？请先阅读管理员的介绍页面。
    • 答：我。管理员并没有特权，我也是。在最近修改中隐藏破坏是我最感喜趣的。对于其它管理方面（例如巡查、速删、存废、保护请求）等，都是例行必须干的工作，哪里需要我帮忙，我就会去哪里。
  • 在所有您在维基导游撰写的条目或作过的贡献中，有没有让您觉得特别喜欢的部份？有的话，为什么？
    • 答：香港，真可爱香港。
  • 你有没有在过去遇到任何有关编辑方面的冲突，或者是你认为其他用户造成你的压力？您如何处理这件事，以及未来遇到时您会怎么处理？
    • 答：无啊。如果双方能“退一步海阔天空”，那就变得容易解决了。（就是说维基导游和维基导游共存一样）--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 13:35, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持对于编辑量排名第一的人。加油！--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:10, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
编辑量排名第一这点是的吗?我才1067+而已--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 14:28, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Maybe: [7]--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:38, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，先支持了，问题什么的，最近在准备考研，等想好了再来问吧。--TianyinLee (talk) 14:18, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，加油--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 14:21, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，是交到这里，而不是监管员。--Byfserag (talk) 08:54, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，--Transuniverses归零者talk 13:36, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Well,stop.--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 12:38, 23 September 2013 (UTC) Withdrawn --‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 12:38, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

管理员申请

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提名User:Gabrielchihonglee：自荐。我现在自荐做Incubator上的Test-administrator，也打算建站后做真实的管理员。我在维基学院上也是管理员，所以我认为我绝对有足够的经验胜任。当上了管理员后（不管是Test-administrator或是建站后的管理员），我会尽我的本分，管理好Wy/zh。所以，我再一次再次恳求大家的支持，谢谢。
三个问题的回答：
您期望帮忙怎么样的管理事务？请先阅读管理员的介绍页面。
答：主要从事管理员积压工作，保护页面，删除页面和日志以及封禁破坏者。另外，作为管理员，我认为我应该负责推动社团上的讨论，也有责任化解纷争。
在所有您在维基导游撰写的条目或作过的贡献中，有没有让您觉得特别喜欢的部份？有的话，为什么？
答：在参与的过程当中，我最享受的就是出席维基媒体国际大会的义工，为维基媒体服务。另外，我也很喜欢建立不同类型的页面，贡献维基导游。
你有没有在过去遇到任何有关编辑方面的冲突，或者是你认为其他用户造成你的压力？您如何处理这件事，以​​及未来遇到时您会怎么处理？
答：暂时没有。我希望以沟通的方式进行解决，在有些时候也会希望条目先保护起来让双方得以冷静。未来自身若在编辑期间遇到3RR情况，仍会寻求正常管道来请求帮助。若遭遇到其他人3RR，我会先与对方沟通并在社群提出讨论再做定夺，或许各位会觉得这样好像很没效率，但比较不会出错，也减少管理员个人过于速决而产生争议。而且面对3RR，在下仅会将页面全保护一段时间，而非封禁用户。在维基百科，封禁是一件非常严重的事情，因此在下认为封禁一个用户需要有充足的理由，包括可供查证的证据、合理判断及所有支持该封禁的因素。这些理由均应在进行复审时按复审人员的要求提供。而且不应该不经警告就立即封禁与之有编辑争议的用户。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 14:20, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

 支持说过一定会支持。--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 12:14, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
{{中立}}编辑量不算很大，且不知道需不需要，但多个管理员可以互相监督（纠结啊）。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:34, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 评论，现在建站能与否还不确定，申请的这个事情还是不要太过急，虽然我也会想要申请，但我觉得还不是时机。--TianyinLee (talk) 14:46, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
若果真的建站了，我谁谁？都会支持（当现看看做了什么）--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 15:11, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，希望新当选的管理员能把中文维基和其他中文姊妹计划所用的一些成熟的中文处理技术引进这儿来，像是地区词转换技术那样。--Great Brightstar (talk) 15:04, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
貌似地区词Mediawiki中已经自带了（只要是选择中文界面的话）？--TianyinLee (talk) 15:21, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 评论：楼上有所不知，在面对同一个地名大陆和港澳台叫法不一的时候中文维基百科就有了个成熟的解决办法，我经过查证后认为此办法在这里也可以用，因此希望管理员引进来。--Great Brightstar (talk) 10:20, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
哦，我知道你的意思了，不是技术专家，所以不敢造次。不过zh-cn的字符和zh-tw的字元在默认情况下就是可以正常转换的，所以可能对于某些知名度不是特别大的转换可能还需要引进吧。--TianyinLee (talk) 11:36, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
解决了吗？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:45, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持--Xiaomingyan (talk) 04:38, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持--Byfserag (talk) 08:52, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
{{反对}} per [8][9] [10] [11] 看起来不了解维基导游运作方式。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:31, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
其实我不认为这样有问题，因为我只是想为大家提供多一种途径来方便的寻找条目啊。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 11:59, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 中立sorry误解了，我先w:en:WP:AGF，但那个其实不太好，不然所有条目都归类到宇宙算了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:11, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 评论之前我提醒过阁下建立的东欧条目的问题了，要从旅者的角度来进行分类。好像阁下又创建了一个西欧？还有我注意到了这个，请阁下注意不要直接从中文维基百科移动条目源代码内容，需要在页面上方加入{{Pagebanner}}以及在底端加入的{{IsPartOf}}，这些我也都提醒过了。另外，条目评级的模板{{outline}}是不行的，需要使用形如{{outlinecity}}或{{outlinecountry}}的模板。至于上面Z大提到的问题，既然是误会的话，我也就不多说什么了，不过分类以及面包屑导航都是由{{IsPartOf}}提供的。在我看来，阁下可能还需要更长的时间来了解一下维基导游的机制，以上。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 05:42, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
提醒阁下：最简单和不犯指引的创建条目方法——Project:条目模板+创建国家和地区条目。--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 05:49, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
谢谢以上两位的提醒或意见，我将会努力改善的了，也请大家多多请教！--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 06:57, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

综合以上的意见，需然我是有4票支持并创建了不小的条目，但是经过我三番的考录后，我还是觉得自己不够经验，所以，我决定撤销这一次的申请，也请大家以后多多指教，感谢满分！--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 07:06, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Withdrawn --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:00, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

评选每月目的地

正在Project:每月目的地候选翻译相关页面转移相关模板。发现首页展示的3个条目是按旬更新的。不如从现在开始我们也开学评选出本月的特色旅行话题条目要展示什么吧，从现在开始评选也不至于以后这些内容都是空白。至于条目质量要求可以适当放宽，大家意见如何？--TianyinLee (talk) 09:32, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

可以接受把条件放宽至可用级，也可以接受没达到可用级的条目，在放上首页前大家一起努力提升到可用级及以上。但在正式运作后在一定时间内要把所有条目提升为指南级，或重新开始评选。另外建议暂时将展示时间延长为2个月。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 12:38, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
改成两个月吗？--TianyinLee (talk) 15:47, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
只是建议啦，如果大家有信心一个月完善三个条目，一个月也可以的。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 08:29, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Project:欢迎，新来者

请问大家同意要加上“维基导游不是维基百科”的字眼吗？--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 05:39, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

我觉得好像两者的页面布局及各方面的区别都相当明显，只要现在别一直把此二者推向同质化就好，现在应该还不到会让人混淆这两者的地步呢。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 06:09, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

哇！

我刚刚创建了的第350条条目啊，当中有47条是我创建的，很大的满足感啊！我看应该快要建站了！大家继续努力！加油！--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 06:45, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

哇！--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 06:51, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
精神可嘉！争取可以早日建站。貌似我只是在建站务相关的条目，对于实际的目的地条目，我没有信心可以写得很好。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 07:28, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Project:条目状态统计

Project:条目状态统计中有大量模板要创建（translate from english），帮帮忙吧。--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 06:54, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

正在帮忙--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 07:07, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
目测是我开的天坑……在没有放进公告栏之前可能只有Z大（刚刚看到还有Xiaomingyan同学）关注到了吧，一直在进行小修小补ing，因为许多条目级别并没有超过大纲的级别，所以进度有点慢 囧rz...，大家一起加油吧。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 07:11, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 评论，也不要太急于求成，在需要的时候添加上相应的分类（因为我看到创建了一堆分类，内容是空的，还是加上需要的说明性文字吧），慢一点没什么，宁缺毋滥是个好成语啊。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 07:26, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
李同学，我又发现了这个，不知道是不是我的要求苛刻了一点，不过，真的是别太着急啊。这里面的内容分明是大纲级别的旅行路线才应该有的，参照英文对应模板好好翻译一下才是正经办法吧。阿鲁~--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 07:34, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 提醒，条目数量不是用来看爽的，而是要真的对得起那个数字啊，我先去上课了。bye--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 07:38, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
88--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 07:41, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
我不太写条目（所实话，因为烦），所以对我来说条目数量对我来说是用来看爽的。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
哈哈，你是技术大后援啊，虽然……，但也不能冲刺成一个只有数量没有内容的空壳，我想说。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 14:40, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Project:管理员

我正与Jackson Chan一同建立这个页面，欢迎大家一同建设！--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 15:18, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

又是……直接复制中文维基百科了。--TianyinLee (talk) 15:40, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 提醒维基百科没有改成维基导游。 囧rz...--TianyinLee (talk) 15:46, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
方针那些怎么可以不像维基导游啊？--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 15:52, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
？一头雾水中--TianyinLee (talk) 16:02, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
把所有中文维基计画和英文维基导游的方针结合成我们的方针 ：P （好的留下，坏的拿走）--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 04:26, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持不过页面上面那个跳转的大框框，太让人误会这里是维基百科了，而且内链的文章以后也不确定会不会诞生，或者知否是适合维基导游的 囧rz...就像之前引入的那个奖励措施一样，类似的还有提删页面。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 06:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 评论：页面标题应该是 Project:管理员。--Great Brightstar (talk) 10:29, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
GB,现在就是这个标题啊。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 01:08, 25 September 2013 (UTC)--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 01:08, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

中文维基导游QQ群

我创建了一个QQ群，或许会便于讨论？群号码：42912114 欢迎加入。验证信息只要写维基导游就好。--TianyinLee (talk) 16:01, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

对不起，我没有QQ，只有FB，Twiter，Google+。--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 02:33, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
咱们香港没有QQ--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 04:23, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
哈哈，咱们香港是有QQ的，关键看个人使用习惯了。腾讯香港，多一个更便捷的讨论地点而已，因为IRC还是用不习惯呀OTZ--TianyinLee (talk) 05:26, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
香港的同学可以用QQ International，表示这个比普通版的简洁些。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 08:34, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
对不起，我没有QQ，只有IRC. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:08, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
那就努力向内地网民发展吧。还有，咱们应该把一个百度贴吧站点发展壮大起来，争取来自贴吧的网友的支持。--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:42, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
刚注册：2233573029.--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:46, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

新来者

我觉得我们应该想一下如何邀请更多的人来参与。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 11:07, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

最重要的一点：建站。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:20, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
建站+1。不过Z大，有后续么？--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 11:57, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:19, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
建站最重要的一点：更多人的参与--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 12:29, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
估计建站后情况能好一些吧，现在许多人都不知道中文维基导游的。--Transuniverses归零者talk 13:01, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
设法从社交网站吸引更多人过来参与。--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:51, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
一声叹息（反对）--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:58, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
建站后才可以吸引更多人过来参与（在Wikimedia Incubator上新手很难适应，如加入Wy/zh、维基导游的基本结构不适合新手）--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 10:46, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
那咱就反复争取建站，这次不成再来下次。--Great Brightstar (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

通知一下

  1. 我正在改良Project:管理员上面的框框，以免人家以为这里是维基百科，那就不好了
  2. 我正在建立Project:翻译请求。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 06:48, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
  1. 不能再同意，我还是希望页面能有维基导游的特色的，希望阁下能够尽快完成这项工作。
  2. 参见需要翻译的条目分类和{{translate}}模板说明档还未翻，一会上课结束继续。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 07:47, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
创建条目时用“en:voy:英文条目名”加入英文维基导游的跨维基链接，方便他人参照添加新内容，另外无内容的页面，尽量少创建，别太拼“条目创建数”了。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 07:52, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
其实我从来都没有去拼条目创建数，只是在达到某一个目标后很有成功感啊。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 08:33, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
另外，就算我是在拼条目创建数，也只是为了快点建站啊。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 09:04, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
现在不是说这样不好，而是说通过举手之劳就可以更加利于其他人对条目进一步的改进，列出英文跨维基连接能为其他人提供一个信息来源，由于现在我们无法链接wikidata，只能用这样的方式。如果真的只是为了创建条目而创建条目的话，大可用机器人，不是吗？机器人创建条目就会有人站出来反对，但用人力完成相同的事情就是合理？如果我话说得有不到位的地方，请见谅，但我对阁下的热情表示高度地肯定。大家都想建站，但这不是取巧的理由，我只能说到这里了，以上。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 10:45, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
通知一下：通知一下。--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 10:48, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
看来，我会检讨一下自己的了，但是，我想知道我所创建的条目中，有什么可以改善。另外，为了可以尽快建站，我希望大家都能够更加和谐的相处，谢谢。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 10:58, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
就个人观点，我觉得TianyinLee说的还是有一定道理的，无论是创建条目或优化条目都没有错，可两者兼顾并进才是我们应当重视的。希望大家都能多搜集一些资料丰富条目，现在大部分条目对于旅行者都是没有实际意义的，因为条目内信息太少了。--Transuniverses归零者talk 11:19, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

东欧及西欧

其实我觉得是应该保留的，因为根据Project:地理分层，这是叫‘洲分区’啊--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 09:35, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

我先保留意见，看看大家怎么认为。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 10:47, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，不过西欧这个分区大致上看没有东欧用得多。--Transuniverses归零者talk 11:22, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

条目名称中需要加上行政级别吗？

这边主要是倾向于旅行，所以需要写出行政级别在条目名称中吗？英文维基导游中的做法是不写级别，比如云南省的条目名称就是云南，在西南地区的介绍中wiki代码写成[[云南]]省即把行政级别额外写出来。请看这里。同时这样也能避免有的行政全名过长的问题。--TianyinLee (talk) 06:59, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

之前有个讨论有人提这边标题和维基百科不一样，建议改成一样的（翻存档没找到），之后所有涉及大陆的条目都被改成了现在这样。英语维基百科中的相关条目也是没有级别的（除了个别比较低级别或同名的行政区划），不过这边的条目和维基百科条目并不完全一一对应，所以也许可以考虑改一下。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 07:50, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
现在的省份条目名称中带着行政级别名称，但是分类中却属于地区条目，所以实际上行政级别写在条目名称反而有了一点点的不合适。而且行政级别这样的东西只有在华人城市才会加上，其他国家的地方比如东京就没有写作东京都。所以我还是认为应该不同于维基百科的命名原则，毕竟这里是旅游指南网站。--TianyinLee (talk) 14:59, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
其实我也倾向于不带行政级别名称。最好在重名时才带上行政级别名称，并且用简称。比如恩施土家族苗族自治州称作“恩施州”，其政府驻地称作“恩施市”。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 11:50, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持Xiaomingyan的主意，谁会叫宁夏回族自治区呢。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:00, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持我也支持，我原本还以为这个讨论会无疾而终呢，因为之前的行动是吧XX全都移动到XX市……--TianyinLee (talk) 10:08, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持，我觉得大部分城市和国家的条目名称都可以简写，但有一些市辖区和县如北京市的东城区、宁波市的镇海区和天津市的蓟县可以按行政名称命名条目以示区别，而像是北京市、内蒙古自治区等条目都可以将名字改为北京、内蒙古而条目正文中一些地方则仍采用“北京市”、“内蒙古自治区”吧。--Transuniverses归零者 11:50, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 提醒：说到单字县名我突然想到郑州市升级之前好像叫做郑县。单字县名一定是不能去掉行政级的吧 囧rz...。不过北京的东城区什么的，不是单独一个单独的条目，而是北京条目的一个子页面，所以不用太做区分吧。另外，英文版的是东城、西城、丰台、海淀这样的，可以参考一下。--TianyinLee (talk) 16:01, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
看来关键不在于是不是有行政级别名称，而在于平时或者说在旅游上怎么称呼某个地点。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:35, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
可以移动了吗？--Byfserag (talk) 13:00, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
这个讨论现在可以确定结果了吧。--TianyinLee (talk) 14:50, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
应该是有结果了。另外我觉得地区列表里也没必要把行政级别写出来，但在条目的导言段落应该要给出正式全称。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 05:37, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
+1--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 06:50, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
我快移死了，谁能帮我移动下。--Byfserag (talk) 09:38, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
移完了别忘了用User:YiFeiBot/Movecat移动分类。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:50, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
how to?--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 12:39, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
你看一下页面历史，机器人每小时都来检查。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:44, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 支持习惯问题这边没必要那么严谨。--Qa003qa003 (talk) 04:14, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

翻译请求

Project:地理分层，谢谢--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 11:05, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

我已经在翻译了，不过里头的例子要更换的比较多，所以有点慢。明天空闲时间比较多，争取明天翻译完。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 12:55, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
协同翻译中--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 14:43, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

 建议 创建一个 Project:翻译请求，收集一下大家的翻译请求。--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:50, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

参见需要翻译的条目分类和{{translate}}--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 09:12, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
翻译之后要把原来英语的版本删掉吗？--Tobesherry (talk) 11:59, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
当然啊，这里是中文维基导游么，如果有不确定的可以用注释代码留在文中，待他人翻译。全文翻译结束以后移除translate模板。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 12:19, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

宣传页面

为了方便宣传，大家能在Project:联络我们中方置宣传页面link(QQ,Facebook,Tiwter,Wechat,weibo,还有什么的自己写)吗？--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 12:07, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

先建一个子页面试试看。--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:35, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

俄罗斯

大家好，这个条目是小弟第一条正式建立的长页面（15,000字节以上），希望大家能够给我一点评语，谢谢。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 10:07, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

  1. 注意是不是重复了
  2. Pagebanner
  3. Interwiki
  4. Project:条目模板/段落--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:45, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

大家的意见

小弟是Wiki协作线上聚的成员，刚刚听到了各界对我们的意见。

  1. 有人认为应该先求有再求好。
  2. 有人认为应该有一个统一的编写守则。
  3. 有人认为应该有完善的条目评级制度。
  4. 有人认为只以点列式列出餐馆/餐馆区的名字，不介绍这些地方，人们会一头雾水。
  5. 有人认为地图标示使用绘图软体加上去就好了，不用刻意要用复杂方式去标示。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 12:53, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
补充，有人认为不应该把Star article直译作明星条目，应该译作星级条目或星级指南。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 13:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
似乎还都是一些不错的主意。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 13:21, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
你应该说出这些意见是谁说的，反正大家到这里也能看到。我们也不是什么黑帮老大或是宗派大老，身份也没有那么不见得光吧。鄙人知道阁下中学肄业，会应考DSE。口试里面你复述他人的意见，你不说提出这个意见是哪个考生（当然你不会知道他的名字），只说“有人”，这样我也不知道考官会怎样了。请阁下考虑。--春卷柯南夫子 ( 茶寮 | 土木记 )13:31, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
对上面的几个意见表达下看法：
  • 意见1和下面的评级制度以及Star article一起说。我对意见1的认识是，我们应该先把比较高等级分层的目的地都创建出来，以便低等级分层条目能够有正常的面包屑导航。创建时可以不追求质量，但至少应该使用条目模板，并进行合理的评级。评级制度，现在的评级制度确实很不完善，需要大家一起努力完善。Star article。“星级”可以表示高等级的、明星级的含义，但“星级”还有名词性的（酒店、宾馆等的）等级的含义，这个含义会产生星级条目是一种评级制度这种歧义，但实际上Star article是最高的一个等级。
  • 意见2。确实需要编写守则。
  • 意见4。listing模板有一个content字段，是专门写介绍用的。
  • 意见5没有看明白。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 14:28, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
正在群里讨论。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:33, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
在下认为Xiaomingyan说得很全面。关于评级的那个页面列出了需要的模板和分类。希望大家可以补足，Gabrielchihonglee创建的分类页面大都缺少文字描述，创建模板时参考英文版写清楚内容，不要直接复制其他评级等级里面的内容 囧rz...--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 15:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
认同Xiaomingyan的观点，还有完善编写规则和格式细部应当得到重视。--Transuniverses归零者talk 01:08, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
我会为这些缺少文字描述的文章作改善，最少会达可用级--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 01:47, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

到底要什么时间才可以建站？

那个MF-W一直都不回复，到底要什么时间才可以建站？（我已经等得很不耐烦了）--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 10:31, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Who knows?--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 11:09, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
我对MF-W一提起我们建站他就has left the channel（离开IRC），据说他很rude when he is annoyed（不礼貌当他觉得很烦）. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:20, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
是啊，希腊语才多少条目都建站了。--Transuniverses归零者talk 11:21, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
真的非找MF-W不可？--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 11:59, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
这是最简单的方法。第二，可以找其他Langcom成员和New wiki importer，而MF-W两个都是，并且他主要负责这些。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:13, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
我们不如直接跟WMF讲或者是找其他人吧。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 13:29, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
还有，顺便把 MF-W 的反应讲给他们--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:48, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 评论与其这样苦大仇深，不如先抓紧时间完善本站点。就现在这样的站点对于旅行者来说，意义不大。--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 15:01, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Ebe123建议 mailto:langcom@lists.wikimedia.org --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 02:16, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
你代表我们去吧--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 03:11, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
算了，万一 MF-W 又嫌烦了怎么办？--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:25, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
其他Langcom成员多得是。--Byfserag (talk) 09:29, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
那你代表我们去吧--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:35, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
等Super Wang回来他代表我们去，他是测试管理员。--Byfserag (talk) 11:10, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
IMHO Super Wang 太 inactive 了。--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:23, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
我英语太烂，不能去。--Byfserag (talk) 11:34, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

道歉

我这一次是来跟大家真心道歉的，我知道我以前对大家带来了不小的烦恼，也很感谢大家对我的包容。对于我为大家带来的麻烦（尤其是对Tianyin Lee的麻烦），请容许我在此对你们说一声，对不起，希望大家能够原谅我以前的过错。另外，我会把我所创建的条目改良，最小也会达到大纲级的水平。请大家多多指教，谢谢。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 03:50, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

其实还好吧，大家加油。被尤其到了，有点不好意思了呢。(─.─|||--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 04:57, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

先求量再求好

大家看看Wy/vi/Trang_Chính，人家1418条目就建立了，证明只要多条目（至少也过1000条吧）就能够建站。所以，我认为还是不要谈质素了，快点建好1000条条目再说吧。需然好像不太好，但是否则就会很久很久都不能建站了，不知道大家的意下如何。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 09:33, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

那至少是被讨论过的： http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/langcom/2013-July/thread.html --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:46, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
……--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 12:18, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
看过了链接一下，还有他们的建站计划页面，人家能够建站，原因是：1）人家社群活跃，条目数量多（这个我们现在看来也是，不过人家条目数是咱的3-4倍）；2）界面翻译好（这个可能比较难，因为我们中文分成几种形式，即是台湾正体、香港/澳门繁体、大陆/马新简体，而在http://translatewiki.net/ ，zh的界面翻译是不许编辑的）；3）人家调查了可行性（没人做过）；4）人家有调查，大多数社群成员支持计划成立（这我们有端倪）。上述问题解决了，建站不成问题。--春卷柯南夫子 ( 茶寮 | 土木记 ) 14:48, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
其实我比较想知道大家同不同意“先求量再求好”。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 15:43, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
关于第二点其实是已经翻译了的，因为直接翻译zh的话难免会出现分歧所以翻译的是zh-hans和zh-hant。zh-hans现在的状态是全都翻译完成了。连接在此

[Langcom] Approval of Votic Wikipedia

Hi all,
I propose to approve Votic Wikipedia (vot).

Meta request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Votic
Test wiki: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/vot
Activity: http://toolserver.org/~pathoschild/catanalysis/?cat=0&title=Wp/vot&wiki=incubatorwiki_p#distribution_201309 (always at least 3 users with >10 edits since 5 months, and also previous such activity in 2012).

Translation of the most-used messages is complete (<http://toolserver.org/~robin/?tool=codelookup&code=vot>).
As this would be the first project in Votic, we also would need an expert to verify the content.
(By the way, verification for Livonian is still pending - my attempts to contact people were unsuccesful).

Best regards,
MF-Warburg

根据此email，大家就可以明白其中的一些建站的条件了。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 23:44, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

and how about us?

--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk☎‥ 06:38, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Well, it's explained on I:CP... Absurd to think that there is any unfairness here. It's just a problem with the Wikitravel/Wikivoyage legacy. --MF-W {a, b} 22:47, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

关于建站的新进展

就此看来，我们应该快要建站了，已经多了人关注了。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 07:36, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

about it. 自己看
[16]自己看。--Byfserag (talk) 08:29, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
What? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:34, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
弄错链接了。--Byfserag (talk) 08:38, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Please do not copy and paste chat logs here! You are welcome to summarize the discussion however. --Rschen7754 17:35, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

请问大家需不需要Wikitravel上的资源？

注意：本轮投票已经结束，请勿再编辑此段。

我觉得没有需要。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 09:11, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

 不需要 先说明是 中文维基旅行, 详细看#关于建站的新进展 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:17, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
另外， 在Super Wang发给我的邮件中
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Zhuyifei1999：
您好。很抱歉，由于我的工作性质特殊，我无法在过去的一段时间内顾及中文维基导游。在下很愿意和您一起探讨中文维基社群未来发展的问题，但是我接下来又要脱机很长时间，故在此我只抽筋拔骨。
WIKITRAVEL的确值得借鉴，然而您应该知道维基导游社群的人们对WIKITRAVEL的态度。他们不太喜欢把原先维基的东西转移到自己的上（事实上，维基导游的很多语言版本都是复刻过来的）。有鉴于此，我们【最好】还是不要WIKITRAVEL的内容，况且它的中文内容不见得不粗糙。
地图的话，可以借用WP中的一个模板来表明经纬度、胜地等信息。
LOGO这件事，我也想过，最近元维基在选举新徽标，我们以前上传的那些都不能用了。唯有等元维基的选举结果出来之后，我们才能定下到底用哪个好。希望阁下明白。
希望以上内容能解开阁下的疑惑。如果有任何问题，9月10日前都可以联系我。
您真诚的
Super Wang

-- 
This email was sent by Super Wang to Zhuyifei1999 by the "Email user" function at Wikimedia Incubator.
我认为不需要维客旅行里面也有关于此的说明，虽然是我翻译的不过大概就是这个意思：--Tianyin LeeTalk to me 10:26, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
来自维基导游的内容可以在符合使用协议下使用。Internet Brands已确认了维客旅行中的内容在CC BY-SA协议下授权。
然而，Internet Brands和维基媒体基金会之间有着法律诉讼案，所以请在转移维客旅行的内容到维基导游之前先进行讨论。
转移维基导游的内容到维客旅行目前还不可以，因为维客旅行中不准提到维基导游，也就是说，目前无法在协议的要求下列明贡献者。
我也认为不需要那边的数据。那边的整体质量不太好，相当多机器翻译和没有翻译通篇英语的页面，不过有个别条目可以借鉴。--Xiaomingyan (talk) 10:37, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 不需要 ，那里的文章都是翻译软件直接翻译的，语句都不通顺，不过如果哪里有好的模板的话可以参考一下、但也不要照抄。中文维基导游应该有一些自己的特色吧。--Transuniverses归零者talk 10:52, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

以5票支持，0票反对，0票中立，本次投票通过。结论为：我们将不会使用Wikitravel里的任何内容，但个别有用的条目除外。--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 13:39, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

建议尽快把讨论结果合并到方针里面去。--Great Brightstar (talk) 19:48, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

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